Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
I have spare licences for most versions of Windows as well, so if Microsoft's virtual server product is not too expensive for us I can probably add a few platform variations to that box. I'll look into it. In fact MS released Virtual PC 2004 for free a couple days ago (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx) FWIW, Virtual Server 2005 R2 Enterprise Edition (how's that for a product name) is also a free download from MS (provided you have a license for the underlying OS, but since it runs only on Win2k3, what'd they expect..) //Magnus ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
On Jul 16, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Kris Jurka wrote: For my cygwin buildfarm member I setup cron, but the make step failed for every build for unknown reasons while succeeding if not run from cron. Is this still happening? We should try to get to the bottom of it. Try setting a more complete $PATH; there's a good chance that make isn't able to find something it needs. -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pervasive Software http://pervasive.comwork: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
-Original Message- From: Petr Jelinek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2006 18:05 To: Dave Page Cc: PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it Dave Page wrote: I have spare licences for most versions of Windows as well, so if Microsoft's virtual server product is not too expensive for us I can probably add a few platform variations to that box. I'll look into it. In fact MS released Virtual PC 2004 for free a couple days ago (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx) It seems that VMWare are following suit - their entry level VMWare Server is now free for Windows and Linux :-) http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
Dave Page wrote: It seems that VMWare are following suit - their entry level VMWare Server is now free for Windows and Linux :-) http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ It has been for some time, at least in Beta, so I'm not sure who really went first. We should be supplying a sample applicance for VMware server that showcases our stuff - maybe the LiveCD project guys could do that? cheers andrew ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
[HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
What's wrong with this picture? http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_status.pl Notice how all the red is at the bottom of the report? That's because all the Windows machines are at the bottom, indicating that they haven't reported recently. AFAICT, snake is the only Windows machine that actually runs the buildfarm on a regular schedule, and even it is just running once a day. So, while the timescale for finding out if a commit breaks or fixes other platforms is just a couple hours, we generally need a full day to find out about Windows. For a platform that requires as much special-case care and feeding as the Windows code does, that's not very acceptable. For a platform that's as ubiquitous as Windows allegedly is, that's pretty surprising. You'd think we could find a couple of people willing to run buildfarm tests every four hours or so, as many of the Unix buildfarm members do. (Yeah, I'm a bit ticked off after waiting overnight to find out if yesterday's commits fixed Windows, and getting up to find no new data.) regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, Tom Lane wrote: [windows buildfarm machines run irregularly] For my part the difficulty is scheduling. As a primarily unix user I understand cron, but have no idea what the windows equivalent is. For my cygwin buildfarm member I setup cron, but the make step failed for every build for unknown reasons while succeeding if not run from cron. That further demotivated me from scheduling mingw builds. Perhaps snake's maintainer could share his configuration? Kris Jurka ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tom Lane Sent: Sun 7/16/2006 3:29 PM To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it AFAICT, snake is the only Windows machine that actually runs the buildfarm on a regular schedule, and even it is just running once a day. I can bump that up as high as you'd like within reason. 4? 6 times a day? I have spare licences for most versions of Windows as well, so if Microsoft's virtual server product is not too expensive for us I can probably add a few platform variations to that box. I'll look into it. Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
-Original Message- From: Kris Jurka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 7/16/2006 3:44 PM To: Tom Lane Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org; Dave Page Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it For my part the difficulty is scheduling. As a primarily unix user I understand cron, but have no idea what the windows equivalent is. For my cygwin buildfarm member I setup cron, but the make step failed for every build for unknown reasons while succeeding if not run from cron. That further demotivated me from scheduling mingw builds. Perhaps snake's maintainer could share his configuration? I run a simple batch script that fires the run off under msys from the Windows Task Scheduler. I'll happily help out anyone who wants to get a build running. Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
Kris Jurka wrote: On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, Tom Lane wrote: [windows buildfarm machines run irregularly] For my part the difficulty is scheduling. As a primarily unix user I understand cron, but have no idea what the windows equivalent is. For my cygwin buildfarm member I setup cron, but the make step failed for every build for unknown reasons while succeeding if not run from cron. That further demotivated me from scheduling mingw builds. Perhaps snake's maintainer could share his configuration? There is job schedulers for Windows. I have no idea how good or bad they are. Joshua D. Drake Kris Jurka ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
Dave Page wrote: I have spare licences for most versions of Windows as well, so if Microsoft's virtual server product is not too expensive for us I can probably add a few platform variations to that box. I'll look into it. In fact MS released Virtual PC 2004 for free a couple days ago (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx) -- Regards Petr Jelinek (PJMODOS) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tom Lane Sent: Sun 7/16/2006 3:29 PM To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it AFAICT, snake is the only Windows machine that actually runs the buildfarm on a regular schedule, and even it is just running once a day. I can bump that up as high as you'd like within reason. 4? 6 times a day? Let's go for 6, at least for HEAD. Under normal use buildfarm doesn't actually do anything unless it detects a change in the source, and it makes sure there isn't a collision by using a lockfile. That means it is safe to schedule builds fairly frequently. cheers andrew ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Page wrote: I can bump that up as high as you'd like within reason. 4? 6 times a day? Let's go for 6, at least for HEAD. There's probably no need to check the back branches oftener than once a day, but if you can do HEAD every 4 hours that'd be great ... regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
-Original Message- From: Petr Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Page dpage@vale-housing.co.uk Cc: PostgreSQL-development pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Sent: 16/07/06 18:05 Subject: Re: Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it In fact MS released Virtual PC 2004 for free a couple days ago (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx) Yeah - I have licences for it, but it's more of an interactive emulator. I think I'll need the server version to run fully unattended. /D ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
Andrew, Tom: I'm putting a solicitation in this week's PWN for more Windows buildfarm members. With 250,000 Windows+PostgreSQL users out there, you'd think a few people would step up. Dave, I think you may need to give Andrew Windows buildfarm instructions to put up at www.pgbuildfarm.org. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Page wrote: I can bump that up as high as you'd like within reason. 4? 6 times a day? Let's go for 6, at least for HEAD. There's probably no need to check the back branches oftener than once a day, but if you can do HEAD every 4 hours that'd be great ... I will have seahorse doing Windows builds at the same rate then ... Stefan ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
-Original Message- From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2006 18:47 To: Andrew Dunstan Cc: Dave Page; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Page wrote: I can bump that up as high as you'd like within reason. 4? 6 times a day? Let's go for 6, at least for HEAD. There's probably no need to check the back branches oftener than once a day, but if you can do HEAD every 4 hours that'd be great ... NP - next run is at 2200BST. Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
-Original Message- From: Stefan Kaltenbrunner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2006 18:17 To: Dave Page Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it care to share that script ? I set up seahorse on friday but as a unix-sysadmin I have not yet managed to get it to do automatic builds ... Sure. It's pretty simply. I run one for each branch (used to do one for all runs, but a problem in an early run can prevent later ones running at all then Regards, Dave. @echo off echo == \msys\1.0\local\build-farm\run-head.log \msys\1.0\bin\date \msys\1.0\local\build-farm\run-head.log echo Starting HEAD run... \msys\1.0\local\build-farm\run-head.log \msys\1.0\bin\sh --login -c cd /usr/local/build-farm; ./run_build.pl --verbose HEAD \msys\1.0\local\build-farm\run-head.log echo Finished. \msys\1.0\local\build-farm\run-head.log \msys\1.0\bin\date \msys\1.0\local\build-farm\run-head.log echo == \msys\1.0\local\build-farm\run-head.log echo. \msys\1.0\local\build-farm\run-head.log ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
-Original Message- From: Josh Berkus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2006 19:04 To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Cc: Tom Lane; Andrew Dunstan; Dave Page Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it Andrew, Tom: I'm putting a solicitation in this week's PWN for more Windows buildfarm members. With 250,000 Windows+PostgreSQL users out there, you'd think a few people would step up. Dave, I think you may need to give Andrew Windows buildfarm instructions to put up at www.pgbuildfarm.org. grinIt was Andrew that gave me instructions! I'll see if I can write up the important points though. /D ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
Dave Page dpage@vale-housing.co.uk writes: In fact MS released Virtual PC 2004 for free a couple days ago (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx) Yeah - I have licences for it, but it's more of an interactive emulator. I think I'll need the server version to run fully unattended. Surely we can dredge up enough Windows users that Dave need not futz with putting multiple versions onto his one machine ... regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
Kris Jurka wrote: For my cygwin buildfarm member I setup cron, but the make step failed for every build for unknown reasons while succeeding if not run from cron. Is this still happening? We should try to get to the bottom of it. cheers andrew ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] Windows buildfarm support, or lack of it
On 7/16/06, Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kris Jurka wrote: On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, Tom Lane wrote: [windows buildfarm machines run irregularly] For my part the difficulty is scheduling.As a primarily unix user I understand cron, but have no idea what the windows equivalent is.For my cygwin buildfarm member I setup cron, but the make step failed for every build for unknown reasons while succeeding if not run from cron. That further demotivated me from scheduling mingw builds.Perhaps snake's maintainer could share his configuration?There is job schedulers for Windows. I have no idea how good or bad theyare. This might help: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308569sd=tech The windows scheduler is ok. I think Dave is doing it the best way. NathanJoshua D. Drake Kris Jurka ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly --=== The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. ===Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240Providing the most comprehensivePostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/---(end of broadcast)---TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
