Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-09-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 9/22/16 11:16 AM, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
> Commit e7010ce seems to forget to change help message of pg_ctl.
> Attached patch.

Fixed, thanks.  I also added the -t option and reformatted a bit.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-09-22 Thread Michael Paquier
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:16 AM, Masahiko Sawada  wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Peter Eisentraut
>  wrote:
>> On 8/11/16 9:28 AM, Michael Paquier wrote:
>> Committed with that adjustment.

Thanks...

> Commit e7010ce seems to forget to change help message of pg_ctl.
> Attached patch.

And right, we missed that bit.
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-09-22 Thread Masahiko Sawada
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:25 AM, Peter Eisentraut
 wrote:
> On 8/11/16 9:28 AM, Michael Paquier wrote:
>> I have looked at them and the changes are looking fine for me. So I
>> have switched the patch as ready for committer, aka you.
>>
>> Just a nit:
>> +   if (wait_seconds > 0)
>> +   {
>> +   sleep(1);
>> +   wait_seconds--;
>> +   continue;
>> +   }
>> This may be better this pg_usleep() instead of sleep().
>
> Committed with that adjustment.
>

Commit e7010ce seems to forget to change help message of pg_ctl.
Attached patch.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-09-21 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 8/11/16 9:28 AM, Michael Paquier wrote:
> I have looked at them and the changes are looking fine for me. So I
> have switched the patch as ready for committer, aka you.
> 
> Just a nit:
> +   if (wait_seconds > 0)
> +   {
> +   sleep(1);
> +   wait_seconds--;
> +   continue;
> +   }
> This may be better this pg_usleep() instead of sleep().

Committed with that adjustment.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-08-11 Thread Michael Paquier
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Peter Eisentraut
 wrote:
> On 8/7/16 9:44 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
 This is not a good
 >> idea, and the idea of putting a wait argument in get_controlfile does
 >> not seem a good interface to me. I'd rather see get_controlfile be
 >> extended with a flag saying no_error_on_failure and keep the wait
 >> logic within pg_ctl.
>>> >
>>> > I guess we could write a wrapper function in pg_ctl that encapsulated
>>> > the wait logic.
>> That's what I would do.
>
> New patches, incorporating your suggestions.

Thanks for the new set!

> I moved some of the error handling out of get_controlfile() and back
> into the callers, because it was getting too weird that that function
> knew so much about the callers' intentions.  That way we don't actually
> have to change the signature.

I have looked at them and the changes are looking fine for me. So I
have switched the patch as ready for committer, aka you.

Just a nit:
+   if (wait_seconds > 0)
+   {
+   sleep(1);
+   wait_seconds--;
+   continue;
+   }
This may be better this pg_usleep() instead of sleep().
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-08-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 8/7/16 9:44 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
>>> This is not a good
>>> >> idea, and the idea of putting a wait argument in get_controlfile does
>>> >> not seem a good interface to me. I'd rather see get_controlfile be
>>> >> extended with a flag saying no_error_on_failure and keep the wait
>>> >> logic within pg_ctl.
>> >
>> > I guess we could write a wrapper function in pg_ctl that encapsulated
>> > the wait logic.
> That's what I would do.

New patches, incorporating your suggestions.

I moved some of the error handling out of get_controlfile() and back
into the callers, because it was getting too weird that that function
knew so much about the callers' intentions.  That way we don't actually
have to change the signature.

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From 04a724675769b2412b739c408abc136d17d52794 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut 
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:39:43 -0400
Subject: [PATCH v2 1/5] Make command_like output more compact

Consistently print the test name, not the full command, which can be
quite lenghty and include temporary directory names and other
distracting details.
---
 src/test/perl/TestLib.pm | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
index 649fd82..c7b3262 100644
--- a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
+++ b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
@@ -276,8 +276,8 @@ sub command_like
 	my ($stdout, $stderr);
 	print("# Running: " . join(" ", @{$cmd}) . "\n");
 	my $result = IPC::Run::run $cmd, '>', \$stdout, '2>', \$stderr;
-	ok($result, "@$cmd exit code 0");
-	is($stderr, '', "@$cmd no stderr");
+	ok($result, "$test_name: exit code 0");
+	is($stderr, '', "$test_name: no stderr");
 	like($stdout, $expected_stdout, "$test_name: matches");
 }
 
-- 
2.9.2

From b7c04b3f6cbe7a37359509363da0701c84063113 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut 
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 10:48:43 -0400
Subject: [PATCH v2 2/5] pg_ctl: Add tests for promote action

---
 src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl | 39 +++
 src/test/perl/TestLib.pm| 11 +++
 2 files changed, 50 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl

diff --git a/src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl b/src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl
new file mode 100644
index 000..1461234
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+use strict;
+use warnings;
+
+use PostgresNode;
+use TestLib;
+use Test::More tests => 9;
+
+my $tempdir = TestLib::tempdir;
+
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', '-D', "$tempdir/nonexistent", 'promote' ],
+   qr/directory .* does not exist/,
+   'pg_ctl promote with nonexistent directory');
+
+my $node_primary = get_new_node('primary');
+$node_primary->init(allows_streaming => 1);
+
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', '-D', $node_primary->data_dir, 'promote' ],
+   qr/PID file .* does not exist/,
+   'pg_ctl promote of not running instance fails');
+
+$node_primary->start;
+
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', '-D', $node_primary->data_dir, 'promote' ],
+   qr/not in standby mode/,
+   'pg_ctl promote of primary instance fails');
+
+my $node_standby = get_new_node('standby');
+$node_primary->backup('my_backup');
+$node_standby->init_from_backup($node_primary, 'my_backup', has_streaming => 1);
+$node_standby->start;
+
+is($node_standby->safe_psql('postgres', 'SELECT pg_is_in_recovery()'),
+   't', 'standby is in recovery');
+
+command_ok([ 'pg_ctl', '-D', $node_standby->data_dir, 'promote' ],
+		   'pg_ctl promote of standby runs');
+
+ok($node_standby->poll_query_until('postgres', 'SELECT NOT pg_is_in_recovery()'),
+   'promoted standby is not in recovery');
diff --git a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
index c7b3262..51b533e 100644
--- a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
+++ b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
@@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ our @EXPORT = qw(
   program_version_ok
   program_options_handling_ok
   command_like
+  command_fails_like
 
   $windows_os
 );
@@ -281,4 +282,14 @@ sub command_like
 	like($stdout, $expected_stdout, "$test_name: matches");
 }
 
+sub command_fails_like
+{
+	my ($cmd, $expected_stderr, $test_name) = @_;
+	my ($stdout, $stderr);
+	print("# Running: " . join(" ", @{$cmd}) . "\n");
+	my $result = IPC::Run::run $cmd, '>', \$stdout, '2>', \$stderr;
+	ok(!$result, "$test_name: exit code not 0");
+	like($stderr, $expected_stderr, "$test_name: matches");
+}
+
 1;
-- 
2.9.2

From cf77e8419bae21a84a2a30d260a70bac2c19498a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut 
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:23:43 -0400
Subject: [PATCH v2 3/5] pg_ctl: Detect current standby state from pg_control

pg_ctl used to determine whether a server was in standby mode by looking
for a recovery.conf file.  With this change, it instead looks into
pg_control, which is potentially more accurate.  There are also
occasional 

Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-08-07 Thread Michael Paquier
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Peter Eisentraut
 wrote:
> On 8/5/16 12:14 AM, Michael Paquier wrote:
>> In do_stop, this patches makes the wait happen for a maximum of
>> wait_seconds * 2, once when getting the control file information, and
>> once when waiting for the server to shut down.
>
> That's not how I read it.  get_controlfile() will decrease the
> wait_seconds argument by how much wait time it has used.  The wait for
> shutdown will then only use as much seconds as are left.

Ah, right. The reference to wait_seconds gets decremented.

>> This is not a good
>> idea, and the idea of putting a wait argument in get_controlfile does
>> not seem a good interface to me. I'd rather see get_controlfile be
>> extended with a flag saying no_error_on_failure and keep the wait
>> logic within pg_ctl.
>
> I guess we could write a wrapper function in pg_ctl that encapsulated
> the wait logic.

That's what I would do.
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-08-05 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 8/5/16 12:14 AM, Michael Paquier wrote:
> In do_stop, this patches makes the wait happen for a maximum of
> wait_seconds * 2, once when getting the control file information, and
> once when waiting for the server to shut down.

That's not how I read it.  get_controlfile() will decrease the
wait_seconds argument by how much wait time it has used.  The wait for
shutdown will then only use as much seconds as are left.

> This is not a good
> idea, and the idea of putting a wait argument in get_controlfile does
> not seem a good interface to me. I'd rather see get_controlfile be
> extended with a flag saying no_error_on_failure and keep the wait
> logic within pg_ctl.

I guess we could write a wrapper function in pg_ctl that encapsulated
the wait logic.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-08-04 Thread Michael Paquier
On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Peter Eisentraut
 wrote:
> Updated patch set for pg_ctl promote -w, incorporating AFAICT all of the
> previous reviews, in particular Michael Paquier's changes to the
> StartupXLOG() ordering, and rebasing on top of
> src/common/controldata_utils.c.

Glad to see a new set of patches here:

1) From 0001
-   ok($result, "@$cmd exit code 0");
-   is($stderr, '', "@$cmd no stderr");
+   ok($result, "$test_name: exit code 0");
+   is($stderr, '', "$test_name: no stderr");
Okay with that, there is anyway a log mentioning the command anyway.
Perhaps you'd want to backpatch that?

2) From 0002:
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-D', "$tempdir/nonexistent" ],
Any code using src/port/getopt_long.c (Windows!) is going to fail on
that. The argument that is not preceded by an option name needs to be
put at the end of the command. So for example this command needs to be
changed to that:
[ 'pg_ctl', '-D', "$tempdir/nonexistent", 'promote' ]

+$node_standby->poll_query_until('postgres', 'SELECT NOT pg_is_in_recovery()');
+
+is($node_standby->safe_psql('postgres', 'SELECT pg_is_in_recovery()'),
+   'f', 'promoted standby is not in recovery');
We could just check that poll_query_until returns 1 here. This would
save running one query.

3) From 0003
In do_stop, this patches makes the wait happen for a maximum of
wait_seconds * 2, once when getting the control file information, and
once when waiting for the server to shut down. This is not a good
idea, and the idea of putting a wait argument in get_controlfile does
not seem a good interface to me. I'd rather see get_controlfile be
extended with a flag saying no_error_on_failure and keep the wait
logic within pg_ctl. The flag would do the following when enabled:
- for frontends, do not issue a WARNING message and return NULL instead.
- for backends, do not issue an ERROR and return NULL instead.

4) Patch 0004, no real comments :) I am glad you picked up this idea.

5) Patch 0005:
Looks good to me. I just noticed that similar to 0002 regarding the
ordering of those arguments:
+command_ok([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-w', '-D', $node_standby->data_dir ],
+  'pg_ctl promote -w of standby runs');

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-08-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Updated patch set for pg_ctl promote -w, incorporating AFAICT all of the
previous reviews, in particular Michael Paquier's changes to the
StartupXLOG() ordering, and rebasing on top of
src/common/controldata_utils.c.

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>From 371ca61ab87e792864ac2f76f3e0dad7912c247e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut 
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:39:43 -0400
Subject: [PATCH 1/5] Make command_like output more compact

Consistently print the test name, not the full command, which can be
quite lenghty and include temporary directory names and other
distracting details.
---
 src/test/perl/TestLib.pm | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
index 649fd82..c7b3262 100644
--- a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
+++ b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
@@ -276,8 +276,8 @@ sub command_like
 	my ($stdout, $stderr);
 	print("# Running: " . join(" ", @{$cmd}) . "\n");
 	my $result = IPC::Run::run $cmd, '>', \$stdout, '2>', \$stderr;
-	ok($result, "@$cmd exit code 0");
-	is($stderr, '', "@$cmd no stderr");
+	ok($result, "$test_name: exit code 0");
+	is($stderr, '', "$test_name: no stderr");
 	like($stdout, $expected_stdout, "$test_name: matches");
 }
 
-- 
2.9.2

>From eabd099bf09d9a4815c29c730d568161c87a67ba Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut 
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 10:48:43 -0400
Subject: [PATCH 2/5] pg_ctl: Add tests for promote action

---
 src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl | 41 +
 src/test/perl/TestLib.pm| 11 +++
 2 files changed, 52 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl

diff --git a/src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl b/src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl
new file mode 100644
index 000..d7e7b99
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl
@@ -0,0 +1,41 @@
+use strict;
+use warnings;
+
+use PostgresNode;
+use TestLib;
+use Test::More tests => 9;
+
+my $tempdir = TestLib::tempdir;
+
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-D', "$tempdir/nonexistent" ],
+   qr/directory .* does not exist/,
+   'pg_ctl promote with nonexistent directory');
+
+my $node_primary = get_new_node('primary');
+$node_primary->init(allows_streaming => 1);
+
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-D', $node_primary->data_dir ],
+   qr/PID file .* does not exist/,
+   'pg_ctl promote of not running instance fails');
+
+$node_primary->start;
+
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-D', $node_primary->data_dir ],
+   qr/not in standby mode/,
+   'pg_ctl promote of primary instance fails');
+
+my $node_standby = get_new_node('standby');
+$node_primary->backup('my_backup');
+$node_standby->init_from_backup($node_primary, 'my_backup', has_streaming => 1);
+$node_standby->start;
+
+is($node_standby->safe_psql('postgres', 'SELECT pg_is_in_recovery()'),
+   't', 'standby is in recovery');
+
+command_ok([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-D', $node_standby->data_dir ],
+		   'pg_ctl promote of standby runs');
+
+$node_standby->poll_query_until('postgres', 'SELECT NOT pg_is_in_recovery()');
+
+is($node_standby->safe_psql('postgres', 'SELECT pg_is_in_recovery()'),
+   'f', 'promoted standby is not in recovery');
diff --git a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
index c7b3262..51b533e 100644
--- a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
+++ b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
@@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ our @EXPORT = qw(
   program_version_ok
   program_options_handling_ok
   command_like
+  command_fails_like
 
   $windows_os
 );
@@ -281,4 +282,14 @@ sub command_like
 	like($stdout, $expected_stdout, "$test_name: matches");
 }
 
+sub command_fails_like
+{
+	my ($cmd, $expected_stderr, $test_name) = @_;
+	my ($stdout, $stderr);
+	print("# Running: " . join(" ", @{$cmd}) . "\n");
+	my $result = IPC::Run::run $cmd, '>', \$stdout, '2>', \$stderr;
+	ok(!$result, "$test_name: exit code not 0");
+	like($stderr, $expected_stderr, "$test_name: matches");
+}
+
 1;
-- 
2.9.2

>From b5bc405a85c6a84c7916f5cc2c3225438df70315 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut 
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:23:43 -0400
Subject: [PATCH 3/5] pg_ctl: Detect current standby state from pg_control

pg_ctl used to determine whether a server was in standby mode by looking
for a recovery.conf file.  With this change, it instead looks into
pg_control, which is potentially more accurate.  There are also
occasional discussions about removing recovery.conf, so this removes one
dependency.

Add a wait_seconds argument to get_controlfile() so that pg_ctl can wait
a bit for a consistent pg_control file.  Otherwise, pg_ctl operations
might fail on rare occasions when the server is updating the file at the
same time.
---
 src/backend/utils/misc/pg_controldata.c |  8 ++--
 src/bin/pg_controldata/pg_controldata.c |  2 +-
 src/bin/pg_ctl/pg_ctl.c 

Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-04-07 Thread Peter Eisentraut

On 04/07/2016 01:22 AM, Michael Paquier wrote:

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:47 AM, David Steele  wrote:

On 3/16/16 12:19 PM, David Steele wrote:

Hi Peter,

On 3/9/16 3:08 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:


Here are some comments about 0002

<...>

I think that we had better do something like the attached first.
Thoughts?


It's been a week since Michael reviewed this patch.  Could you please
comment on his proposed changes as soon as possible?


Bump.


Feature freeze is getting close by. Once the deadline is reached, I
guess that we had better return the patch.


I have closed the patch as returned with feedback.  There were a number 
of interesting points raised that will need some time for consideration 
and testing.




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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-04-06 Thread Michael Paquier
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:47 AM, David Steele  wrote:
> On 3/16/16 12:19 PM, David Steele wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> On 3/9/16 3:08 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
>>
>>> Here are some comments about 0002
>> <...>
>>> I think that we had better do something like the attached first.
>>> Thoughts?
>>
>> It's been a week since Michael reviewed this patch.  Could you please
>> comment on his proposed changes as soon as possible?
>
> Bump.

Feature freeze is getting close by. Once the deadline is reached, I
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-03-22 Thread David Steele
On 3/16/16 12:19 PM, David Steele wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On 3/9/16 3:08 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
> 
>> Here are some comments about 0002
> <...>
>> I think that we had better do something like the attached first.
>> Thoughts?
> 
> It's been a week since Michael reviewed this patch.  Could you please
> comment on his proposed changes as soon as possible?

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-03-19 Thread David Steele
Hi Peter,

On 3/9/16 3:08 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:

> Here are some comments about 0002
<...>
> I think that we had better do something like the attached first.
> Thoughts?

It's been a week since Michael reviewed this patch.  Could you please
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-03-09 Thread Michael Paquier
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Michael Paquier
 wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Michael Paquier
>  wrote:
>> I would suggest using
>> $node_standby->poll_query_until('SELECT pg_is_in_recovery()') to
>> validate the end of the test.
>
> Meh. SELECT NOT pg_is_in_recovery(). This will wait until the query
> returns true.

Here are some comments about 0002

+   if ((fd = open(control_file_path, O_RDONLY | PG_BINARY, 0)) == -1)
+   {
+   fprintf(stderr, _("%s: could not open file \"%s\" for
reading: %s\n"),
+   progname, control_file_path, strerror(errno));
+   exit(1);
+   }
[...]
Most of the logic of get_control_dbstate() is a mimic of the
recently-introduced get_controlfile() in controldata_utils.c of
dc7d70e. I think that we had better use that, and that we had better
emit an error should an incorrect control file be found while running
those pg_ctl commands as the control file present had better have a
correct CRC all the time or something wrong is going on. So this would
lead to this logic for get_control_dbstate():
control_file_data = get_controlfile(pg_data, progname);
res = control_file_data->state;
pfree(control_file_data);

Except that, 0002 is a good thing to have, switching from the presence
of recovery.conf to what is in the control data file is definitely
more robust, a lot of things happen from when recovery.conf is renamed
to recovery.done until WAL is enabled for backends, particularly the
end of recovery checkpoint and the cleanup of the WAL segments of the
previous timeline.

And now for 0003...

+$node_standby->command_like(['psql', '-X', '-A', '-t', '-c', 'SELECT
pg_is_in_recovery()'],
+   qr/^t$/,
+   'standby is in recovery');
[...]
+$node_standby->command_like(['psql', '-X', '-A', '-t', '-c', 'SELECT
pg_is_in_recovery()'],
+   qr/^f$/,
+   'promoted standby is not in recovery');
for those two you can use $node_standby->psql_safe to get back a query result.

> The subsequent discussion mentioned that there might still be a window
> between end of waiting and when read-write queries would be accepted.  I
> don't know how big that window would be in practice and would be
> interested in some testing and feedback.

And so... Based on the previous discussion, there is an interval of
time between the moment the update of the control file is done and the
point where backends are allowed to emit WAL. I am really worrying
about this interval of time actually, as once pg_ctl exits client
applications should be guaranteed to connect to the server but the
current patch would not be failure-proof, and I imagine that
particularly on CPU-constrained environments this is going to become
unstable. Particularly I expect that slow machines are likely going to
fail in the last test of 003_promote.pl as designed (I am away from
home now so I have not been able to test that unfortunately on my own
stuff but that's possible) because pg_is_in_recovery is controlled by
SharedRecoveryInProgress, so it may be possible that
pg_is_in_recovery() returns false while the control file status is
DB_IN_PRODUCTION. The main factor that can contribute to a larger
window is a higher number of 2PC transactions that need to be loaded
back to shared memory after scanning pg_twophase.

If we are going to have a reliable promote wait mode for pg_ctl, I
think that we had better first reduce this window, something that
could be done is to update SharedRecoveryInProgress while holding an
exclusive lock on ControlFileLock, with this flow for example. See for
example the patch attached, we can reduce this window to zero for
backends if some of them refer to ControlFile in shared memory thanks
to ControlFileLock. For clients, there will still be a small window
during which backends could write WAL and the control file status is
ARCHIVE_RECOVERY on disk. If we want to have a reliable promote wait
mode for pg_ctl, I think that we had better do something like the
attached first. Thoughts?

Looking at where is used the shared memory structure of ControlFile,
one thing to worry about is CreateRestartPoint but its code paths are
already using ControlFileLock when looking at the status file, so they
are safe with this logic.
-- 
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diff --git a/src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c b/src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c
index 00f139a..590385c 100644
--- a/src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c
+++ b/src/backend/access/transam/xlog.c
@@ -7371,12 +7371,6 @@ StartupXLOG(void)
 	 */
 	InRecovery = false;
 
-	LWLockAcquire(ControlFileLock, LW_EXCLUSIVE);
-	ControlFile->state = DB_IN_PRODUCTION;
-	ControlFile->time = (pg_time_t) time(NULL);
-	UpdateControlFile();
-	LWLockRelease(ControlFileLock);
-
 	/* start the archive_timeout timer running */
 	XLogCtl->lastSegSwitchTime = (pg_time_t) time(NULL);
 
@@ -7434,15 +7428,32 @@ StartupXLOG(void)
 	

Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-28 Thread Michael Paquier
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Michael Paquier
 wrote:
> I would suggest using
> $node_standby->poll_query_until('SELECT pg_is_in_recovery()') to
> validate the end of the test.

Meh. SELECT NOT pg_is_in_recovery(). This will wait until the query
returns true.
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-28 Thread Michael Paquier
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Peter Eisentraut  wrote:
> On 2/19/16 3:09 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
>> I see no need for an additional mechanism.  Just watch pg_control until
>> you see DB_IN_PRODUCTION state there, then switch over to the same
>> connection probing that "pg_ctl start -w" uses.
>
> Here is a patch set around that idea.
>
> The subsequent discussion mentioned that there might still be a window
> between end of waiting and when read-write queries would be accepted.  I
> don't know how big that window would be in practice and would be
> interested in some testing and feedback.

Here is some input for 0001 (useful taken independently):
+$node_primary->append_conf(
+   "postgresql.conf", qq(
+wal_level = hot_standby
+max_wal_senders = 2
+wal_keep_segments = 20
+hot_standby = on
+)
+   );
That's more or less allows_streaming => 1 in $node_primary->init.

+$node_standby->append_conf(
+   "recovery.conf", qq(
+primary_conninfo='$connstr_primary'
+standby_mode=on
+recovery_target_timeline='latest'
+)
+   );
Here you could just use enable_streaming => 1 when calling init_from_backup.

+$node_standby->command_like(['psql', '-X', '-A', '-t', '-c', 'SELECT
pg_is_in_recovery()'],
$node_standby->psql instead of a direct command? The result is
returned directly with the call to the routine.

+$node_standby->command_like(['psql', '-X', '-A', '-t', '-c', 'SELECT
pg_is_in_recovery()'],
+   qr/^f$/,
+   'promoted standby is not in recovery');
Once again $node_standby->psql?

+sleep 3;  # needs a moment to react
+
+$node_standby->command_like(['psql', '-X', '-A', '-t', '-c', 'SELECT
pg_is_in_recovery()'],
+   qr/^f$/,
+   'promoted standby is not in recovery');
sleep() is something we should try to avoid as much as possible in our
tests. On slow platforms, take hamster, promote is surely going to
take longer than that to be processed by the standby node and put it
out of recovery. I would suggest using
$node_standby->poll_query_until('SELECT pg_is_in_recovery()') to
validate the end of the test.
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-28 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 2/19/16 3:09 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> I see no need for an additional mechanism.  Just watch pg_control until
> you see DB_IN_PRODUCTION state there, then switch over to the same
> connection probing that "pg_ctl start -w" uses.

Here is a patch set around that idea.

The subsequent discussion mentioned that there might still be a window
between end of waiting and when read-write queries would be accepted.  I
don't know how big that window would be in practice and would be
interested in some testing and feedback.
From cb5d4a63620636d4043d1a85acf7fcfdace73b1d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut 
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:21:54 -0500
Subject: [PATCH 1/3] pg_ctl: Add tests for promote action

---
 src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl | 62 +
 src/test/perl/TestLib.pm| 11 
 2 files changed, 73 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl

diff --git a/src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl b/src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl
new file mode 100644
index 000..64d72e0
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/bin/pg_ctl/t/003_promote.pl
@@ -0,0 +1,62 @@
+use strict;
+use warnings;
+
+use PostgresNode;
+use TestLib;
+use Test::More tests => 13;
+
+my $tempdir   = TestLib::tempdir;
+#my $tempdir_short = TestLib::tempdir_short;
+
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-D', "$tempdir/nonexistent" ],
+   qr/directory .* does not exist/,
+   'pg_ctl promote with nonexistent directory');
+
+my $node_primary = get_new_node('primary');
+$node_primary->init;
+$node_primary->append_conf(
+	"postgresql.conf", qq(
+wal_level = hot_standby
+max_wal_senders = 2
+wal_keep_segments = 20
+hot_standby = on
+)
+	);
+
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-D', $node_primary->data_dir ],
+   qr/PID file .* does not exist/,
+   'pg_ctl promote of not running instance fails');
+
+$node_primary->start;
+
+command_fails_like([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-D', $node_primary->data_dir ],
+   qr/not in standby mode/,
+   'pg_ctl promote of primary instance fails');
+
+my $node_standby = get_new_node('standby');
+$node_primary->backup('my_backup');
+$node_standby->init_from_backup($node_primary, 'my_backup');
+my $connstr_primary = $node_primary->connstr('postgres');
+
+$node_standby->append_conf(
+	"recovery.conf", qq(
+primary_conninfo='$connstr_primary'
+standby_mode=on
+recovery_target_timeline='latest'
+)
+	);
+
+$node_standby->start;
+
+$node_standby->command_like(['psql', '-X', '-A', '-t', '-c', 'SELECT pg_is_in_recovery()'],
+			qr/^t$/,
+			'standby is in recovery');
+
+command_ok([ 'pg_ctl', 'promote', '-D', $node_standby->data_dir ],
+		   'pg_ctl promote of standby runs');
+
+sleep 3;  # needs a moment to react
+
+$node_standby->command_like(['psql', '-X', '-A', '-t', '-c', 'SELECT pg_is_in_recovery()'],
+			qr/^f$/,
+			'promoted standby is not in recovery');
diff --git a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
index 3d11cbb..dd275cf 100644
--- a/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
+++ b/src/test/perl/TestLib.pm
@@ -34,6 +34,7 @@ our @EXPORT = qw(
   program_version_ok
   program_options_handling_ok
   command_like
+  command_fails_like
 
   $windows_os
 );
@@ -262,4 +263,14 @@ sub command_like
 	like($stdout, $expected_stdout, "$test_name: matches");
 }
 
+sub command_fails_like
+{
+	my ($cmd, $expected_stderr, $test_name) = @_;
+	my ($stdout, $stderr);
+	print("# Running: " . join(" ", @{$cmd}) . "\n");
+	my $result = IPC::Run::run $cmd, '>', \$stdout, '2>', \$stderr;
+	ok(!$result, "@$cmd exit code not 0");
+	like($stderr, $expected_stderr, "$test_name: matches");
+}
+
 1;
-- 
2.7.2

From 7c1b6e94f5e3beb9e558d2af7098940d4475fe11 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Peter Eisentraut 
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:21:54 -0500
Subject: [PATCH 2/3] pg_ctl: Detect current standby state from pg_control

pg_ctl used to determine whether a server was in standby mode by looking
for a recovery.conf file.  With this change, it instead looks into
pg_control, which is potentially more accurate.  There are also
occasional discussions about removing recovery.conf, so this removes one
dependency.
---
 src/bin/pg_ctl/pg_ctl.c | 60 ++---
 1 file changed, 57 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/bin/pg_ctl/pg_ctl.c b/src/bin/pg_ctl/pg_ctl.c
index bae6c22..c38c479 100644
--- a/src/bin/pg_ctl/pg_ctl.c
+++ b/src/bin/pg_ctl/pg_ctl.c
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 
 #include "postgres_fe.h"
 
+#include "catalog/pg_control.h"
 #include "libpq-fe.h"
 #include "pqexpbuffer.h"
 
@@ -158,6 +159,8 @@ static bool postmaster_is_alive(pid_t pid);
 static void unlimit_core_size(void);
 #endif
 
+static DBState get_control_dbstate(void);
+
 
 #ifdef WIN32
 static void
@@ -1168,7 +1171,6 @@ do_promote(void)
 {
 	FILE	   *prmfile;
 	pgpid_t		pid;
-	struct stat statbuf;
 
 	pid = get_pgpid(false);
 
@@ -1187,8 +1189,7 @@ do_promote(void)
 		exit(1);
 	}
 
-	/* If recovery.conf doesn't exist, 

Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-19 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund  writes:
> On 2016-02-19 15:09:58 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> I see no need for an additional mechanism.  Just watch pg_control until
>> you see DB_IN_PRODUCTION state there, then switch over to the same
>> connection probing that "pg_ctl start -w" uses.

> That's afaics not sufficient if the standby was using hot standby, as
> that'll let -w succeed immediately, no?

Oh, now I get Fujii-san's point.  Yes, that wouldn't prove anything
about whether you could do a write transaction immediately.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-19 Thread Andres Freund
On 2016-02-19 15:09:58 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut  writes:
> > On 2/19/16 10:06 AM, Fujii Masao wrote:
> >> One concern is that there can be a "time" after the pg_control's state
> >> is changed to DB_IN_PRODUCTION and before the server is able to
> >> start accepting normal (not read-only) connections. So if users try to
> >> start write transaction just after pg_ctl promote -w ends, they might
> >> get an error because the server is still in recovery, i.e., the startup
> >> process is running.
> 
> > I think that window would be acceptable.
> 
> > If not, then the way to deal with it would seem to be to create an
> > entirely new mechanism to communicate with pg_ctl (e.g., a file) and
> > call that at the very end of StartupXLOG().  I'm not sure that that is
> > worth it.
> 
> I see no need for an additional mechanism.  Just watch pg_control until
> you see DB_IN_PRODUCTION state there, then switch over to the same
> connection probing that "pg_ctl start -w" uses.

That's afaics not sufficient if the standby was using hot standby, as
that'll let -w succeed immediately, no?

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-19 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut  writes:
> On 2/19/16 10:06 AM, Fujii Masao wrote:
>> One concern is that there can be a "time" after the pg_control's state
>> is changed to DB_IN_PRODUCTION and before the server is able to
>> start accepting normal (not read-only) connections. So if users try to
>> start write transaction just after pg_ctl promote -w ends, they might
>> get an error because the server is still in recovery, i.e., the startup
>> process is running.

> I think that window would be acceptable.

> If not, then the way to deal with it would seem to be to create an
> entirely new mechanism to communicate with pg_ctl (e.g., a file) and
> call that at the very end of StartupXLOG().  I'm not sure that that is
> worth it.

I see no need for an additional mechanism.  Just watch pg_control until
you see DB_IN_PRODUCTION state there, then switch over to the same
connection probing that "pg_ctl start -w" uses.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-19 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut  writes:
> Is it safe to read pg_control externally without a lock?  pg_controldata
> will just report a CRC error and proceed, and if you're not sure you can
> just run it again.  But if a promotion fails every so often because of
> concurrent pg_control writes, that would make this feature annoying.

Just retry the read till you don't get a CRC error.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-19 Thread Andres Freund
On 2016-02-20 00:06:09 +0900, Fujii Masao wrote:
> One concern is that there can be a "time" after the pg_control's state
> is changed to DB_IN_PRODUCTION and before the server is able to
> start accepting normal (not read-only) connections. So if users try to
> start write transaction just after pg_ctl promote -w ends, they might
> get an error because the server is still in recovery, i.e., the startup
> process is running.

It might make sense to have one more state type, which is used when
ending recovery, but before full access is allowed.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-19 Thread Andres Freund
On 2016-02-19 13:48:52 -0500, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Is it safe to read pg_control externally without a lock?  pg_controldata
> will just report a CRC error and proceed, and if you're not sure you can
> just run it again.  But if a promotion fails every so often because of
> concurrent pg_control writes, that would make this feature annoying.

Yes, the OS should give sufficient guarantees here:

   If write() is interrupted by a signal before it writes any data, it 
shall return −1 with errno set to [EINTR].

   If write() is interrupted by a signal after it successfully writes some 
data, it shall return the number of bytes written.

   If the value of nbyte is greater than {SSIZE_MAX}, the result is 
implementation-defined.

   After a write() to a regular file has successfully returned:

*  Any successful read() from each byte position in the file that was 
modified by that write shall return the data specified
   by the write() for that position until such byte positions are again 
modified.

We currently assume that all "small" writes succeed in one go (and throw
errors if not). Thus the guarantees by read/write are sufficient.

Regards,

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 2/19/16 10:06 AM, Fujii Masao wrote:
> One concern is that there can be a "time" after the pg_control's state
> is changed to DB_IN_PRODUCTION and before the server is able to
> start accepting normal (not read-only) connections. So if users try to
> start write transaction just after pg_ctl promote -w ends, they might
> get an error because the server is still in recovery, i.e., the startup
> process is running.

I think that window would be acceptable.

If not, then the way to deal with it would seem to be to create an
entirely new mechanism to communicate with pg_ctl (e.g., a file) and
call that at the very end of StartupXLOG().  I'm not sure that that is
worth it.



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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 2/18/16 3:33 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2016-02-17 21:47:50 -0500, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> It would be nice if pg_ctl promote supported the -w (wait) option.
>>
>> How could pg_ctl determine when the promotion has finished?
> 
> How about looking into pg_control? ControlFileData->state ought to have
> the correct information.

Is it safe to read pg_control externally without a lock?  pg_controldata
will just report a CRC error and proceed, and if you're not sure you can
just run it again.  But if a promotion fails every so often because of
concurrent pg_control writes, that would make this feature annoying.



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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-19 Thread Fujii Masao
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Simon Riggs  wrote:
> On 18 February 2016 at 08:33, Andres Freund  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2016-02-17 21:47:50 -0500, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> > It would be nice if pg_ctl promote supported the -w (wait) option.

+1

>> > How could pg_ctl determine when the promotion has finished?
>>
>> How about looking into pg_control? ControlFileData->state ought to have
>> the correct information.
>
>
> +1

One concern is that there can be a "time" after the pg_control's state
is changed to DB_IN_PRODUCTION and before the server is able to
start accepting normal (not read-only) connections. So if users try to
start write transaction just after pg_ctl promote -w ends, they might
get an error because the server is still in recovery, i.e., the startup
process is running.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Riggs
On 18 February 2016 at 08:33, Andres Freund  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 2016-02-17 21:47:50 -0500, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > It would be nice if pg_ctl promote supported the -w (wait) option.
> >
> > How could pg_ctl determine when the promotion has finished?
>
> How about looking into pg_control? ControlFileData->state ought to have
> the correct information.
>

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-18 Thread Andres Freund
Hi,

On 2016-02-17 21:47:50 -0500, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> It would be nice if pg_ctl promote supported the -w (wait) option.
> 
> How could pg_ctl determine when the promotion has finished?

How about looking into pg_control? ControlFileData->state ought to have
the correct information.

Regards,

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-18 Thread Simon Riggs
On 18 February 2016 at 02:47, Peter Eisentraut  wrote:

> It would be nice if pg_ctl promote supported the -w (wait) option.
>
> How could pg_ctl determine when the promotion has finished?
>
> We could query pg_is_in_recovery(), but that would require database
> access, which we got rid of in pg_ctl.
>
> We could check when recovery.conf is gone or recovery.done appears.
> This could work, but I think some people are trying to get rid of these
> files, so building a feature on that might be a problem?  (I think the
> latest news on that was that the files might be different in this
> hypothetical future but there would still be a file to prevent
> re-recovery on restart.)
>
> Other ideas?
>

We use a trigger file under the covers, so a promotion complete file seems
useful also, but crappy.

Perhaps we should have a Server Status file that shows Standby or Master,
obviously not updated on crash.

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[HACKERS] pg_ctl promote wait

2016-02-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
It would be nice if pg_ctl promote supported the -w (wait) option.

How could pg_ctl determine when the promotion has finished?

We could query pg_is_in_recovery(), but that would require database
access, which we got rid of in pg_ctl.

We could check when recovery.conf is gone or recovery.done appears.
This could work, but I think some people are trying to get rid of these
files, so building a feature on that might be a problem?  (I think the
latest news on that was that the files might be different in this
hypothetical future but there would still be a file to prevent
re-recovery on restart.)

Other ideas?



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[HACKERS] Pg_ctl promote -- wait for slave to be promoted fully ?

2012-08-07 Thread Magnus Hagander
Should we consider if we can make pg_ctl -w work for promote as well?

The main problem is, I guess, that it can't log in - so wed' need
something like PQping() that actually checked if it was master or
slave?

//Magnus


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Date: Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM
Subject: [GENERAL] Pg_ctl promote -- wait for slave to be promoted fully ?
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Hi team,

I am using PG 9.1.2 and I am promoting a slave to master with the
following command.

pg_ctl promote -D /pat/to/data

Command does return back faster with code 0 ( = success). I assumed
the slave is now the master and issued write operations. But the
statement failed as the DB complained that it can do only read
operation. Postgres.log showed ready to accept connection a second
later after I issued the statement. So, my understanding is pg_ctl
promote is triggering a slave promote and is asynchornous.

-- Anyway I can query the state of DB to know its status slave or
master ?? So, that i can issue write statements only after I know that
the DB is the new master now

-- Or anyway to make pg_ctl promote to wait till the slave is
completely promoted ?


Any help is appreciated.

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Re: [HACKERS] Pg_ctl promote -- wait for slave to be promoted fully ?

2012-08-07 Thread Fujii Masao
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote:
 Should we consider if we can make pg_ctl -w work for promote as well?

+1

 The main problem is, I guess, that it can't log in - so wed' need
 something like PQping() that actually checked if it was master or
 slave?

Yes.

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Re: [HACKERS] Pg_ctl promote -- wait for slave to be promoted fully ?

2012-08-07 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Fujii Masao masao.fu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote:
 Should we consider if we can make pg_ctl -w work for promote as well?

 +1

 The main problem is, I guess, that it can't log in - so wed' need
 something like PQping() that actually checked if it was master or
 slave?

 Yes.

Is there a security concern with exposing this information to people
who haven't authenticated?

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