Re: [HACKERS] 9.2 release schedule

2012-07-24 Thread Fujii Masao
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Noah Misch n...@leadboat.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:29:06AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
  Seems OK, but I think we need to work a little harder on evicting some
  things from the list of open items.  I don't think all of the things
  listed in the blockers section really are, and I'm not sure what needs
  to be done about some of the things that are there.

 I've got the libpq row processor thing.  That and the CHECK NO INHERIT
 syntax thing are definitely release-blockers, because we won't be able
 to change such decisions post-release (well, we could, but the pain to
 benefit ratio is bad).  I guess the SPGiST vs HS issue is a blocker too.
 A lot of the rest look like pre-existing bugs to me.

 The only preexisting issues listed under Blockers for 9.2 are GiST indexes
 vs fuzzy comparisons used by geometric types and Should we fix tuple limit
 handling, or redefine 9.x behavior as correct?.  Also, I'm not sure what
 exactly the keepalives item indicates.  Whether every regression deserves to
 block the release is, of course, a separate question.

 I think WAL files which were restored from the archive are archived again is
 the thorniest regression, and we don't yet have a patch.

Yep, that's really a problem. Will implement the patch.

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.2 release schedule

2012-07-23 Thread Robert Haas
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
 It looks like the most optimistic schedule we could possibly make,
 assuming no show-stopper bugs are reported, is:

 * Wrap beta3 on August 2 for release Monday Aug 6

 * RC1 two weeks later (release Aug 20)

 * 9.2.0 two weeks after that (release Sept 3)

 Now that schedule isn't actually going to work so far as the USA
 contingent is concerned, because Sept 3 is Labor Day.  But we could
 figure that there's room for one week's slip in there, either for
 RC1 or final, giving us a release date of Sept 10.

 Again, this is assuming no major bugs are found to force more slippage
 or additional betas/RCs.  But I think it's reasonable to shoot for
 If All Goes Well.

 Comments, objections?

Seems OK, but I think we need to work a little harder on evicting some
things from the list of open items.  I don't think all of the things
listed in the blockers section really are, and I'm not sure what needs
to be done about some of the things that are there.

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.2 release schedule

2012-07-23 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
 Seems OK, but I think we need to work a little harder on evicting some
 things from the list of open items.  I don't think all of the things
 listed in the blockers section really are, and I'm not sure what needs
 to be done about some of the things that are there.

I've got the libpq row processor thing.  That and the CHECK NO INHERIT
syntax thing are definitely release-blockers, because we won't be able
to change such decisions post-release (well, we could, but the pain to
benefit ratio is bad).  I guess the SPGiST vs HS issue is a blocker too.
A lot of the rest look like pre-existing bugs to me.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.2 release schedule

2012-07-23 Thread Noah Misch
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:29:06AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
  Seems OK, but I think we need to work a little harder on evicting some
  things from the list of open items.  I don't think all of the things
  listed in the blockers section really are, and I'm not sure what needs
  to be done about some of the things that are there.
 
 I've got the libpq row processor thing.  That and the CHECK NO INHERIT
 syntax thing are definitely release-blockers, because we won't be able
 to change such decisions post-release (well, we could, but the pain to
 benefit ratio is bad).  I guess the SPGiST vs HS issue is a blocker too.
 A lot of the rest look like pre-existing bugs to me.

The only preexisting issues listed under Blockers for 9.2 are GiST indexes
vs fuzzy comparisons used by geometric types and Should we fix tuple limit
handling, or redefine 9.x behavior as correct?.  Also, I'm not sure what
exactly the keepalives item indicates.  Whether every regression deserves to
block the release is, of course, a separate question.

I think WAL files which were restored from the archive are archived again is
the thorniest regression, and we don't yet have a patch.

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[HACKERS] 9.2 release schedule

2012-07-21 Thread Bruce Momjian
What are our plans for a 9.2 final release date?  If we wait until
September 1 to release our first release candidate, we will probably not
release final until mid/late September.  Is that what we want?

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.2 release schedule

2012-07-21 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On 21 July 2012 08:08, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
 What are our plans for a 9.2 final release date?  If we wait until
 September 1 to release our first release candidate, we will probably not
 release final until mid/late September.  Is that what we want?

Personally I had hoped to see an earlier release date than that.

Can we finish the 9.2 release notes?

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.2 release schedule

2012-07-21 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Geoghegan pe...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
 On 21 July 2012 08:08, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
 What are our plans for a 9.2 final release date?  If we wait until
 September 1 to release our first release candidate, we will probably not
 release final until mid/late September.  Is that what we want?

 Personally I had hoped to see an earlier release date than that.

Me too, but we are running out of time ... it's already late July.

I think the immediate goal must be to clear the list of open issues
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_9.2_Open_Items
and then get another beta out.

It seems unlikely that we could do a beta next week (for one thing,
certain key people are going to be out sailing...) but maybe we could
schedule the next beta for first Monday in August?  That gives us
about ten days to get the open issues dealt with before wrapping.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] 9.2 release schedule

2012-07-21 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote:
 Peter Geoghegan pe...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
 On 21 July 2012 08:08, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
 What are our plans for a 9.2 final release date?  If we wait until
 September 1 to release our first release candidate, we will probably not
 release final until mid/late September.  Is that what we want?

 Personally I had hoped to see an earlier release date than that.

 Me too, but we are running out of time ... it's already late July.

 I think the immediate goal must be to clear the list of open issues
 http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_9.2_Open_Items
 and then get another beta out.

It looks like the most optimistic schedule we could possibly make,
assuming no show-stopper bugs are reported, is:

* Wrap beta3 on August 2 for release Monday Aug 6

* RC1 two weeks later (release Aug 20)

* 9.2.0 two weeks after that (release Sept 3)

Now that schedule isn't actually going to work so far as the USA
contingent is concerned, because Sept 3 is Labor Day.  But we could
figure that there's room for one week's slip in there, either for
RC1 or final, giving us a release date of Sept 10.

Again, this is assuming no major bugs are found to force more slippage
or additional betas/RCs.  But I think it's reasonable to shoot for
If All Goes Well.

Comments, objections?

regards, tom lane

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