Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-12 Thread Chris Redekop
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Florian Pflug f...@phlo.org wrote: On Nov9, 2011, at 23:53 , Daniel Farina wrote: I think a novice user would be scared half to death: I know I was the first time. That's not a great impression for the project to leave for what is not, at its root, a vast

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-10 Thread Boszormenyi Zoltan
2011-11-10 03:35 keltezéssel, Joshua D. Drake írta: On 11/09/2011 06:15 PM, Robert Haas wrote: 2011/11/9 Devrim GÜNDÜZdev...@gunduz.org: On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 21:12 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: The point is that all the packaging will be done *before* people leave to go eat Turkey. Eating

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Greg Jaskiewicz
On 9 Nov 2011, at 05:06, Magnus Hagander wrote: I definitely think they are important enough to trigger a release. But as you say, I think we need confirmation that they actually fix the problem... Would you consider it a blocker for a rollout on production system ?

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Josh Berkus
I definitely think they are important enough to trigger a release. But as you say, I think we need confirmation that they actually fix the problem... Just last night Heroku was offering to help us test replication stuff. I'll take them up on it. Link for the patch and issue in question? --

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Greg Smith
On 11/09/2011 01:12 PM, Greg Jaskiewicz wrote: Would you consider it a blocker for a rollout on production system ? I wouldn't. Good process for checking your backups should find this problem if it pops up, and it's not that easy to run into. That's why I was saying there are workarounds

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Daniel Farina
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Farina dan...@heroku.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote: I definitely think they are important enough to trigger a release. But as you say, I think we need confirmation that they actually fix the

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Daniel Farina
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net wrote: I definitely think they are important enough to trigger a release. But as you say, I think we need confirmation that they actually fix the problem... I have confirmed that the clog/subtrans fixes allow us to start up

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Greg Smith
On 11/09/2011 03:58 PM, Daniel Farina wrote: On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Magnus Hagandermag...@hagander.net wrote: I definitely think they are important enough to trigger a release. But as you say, I think we need confirmation that they actually fix the problem... I have

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Daniel Farina
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: I think Daniel has run into this problem more than anyone else, so hearing it's fixed for him makes me feel a lot better that it's been resolved.  I'd characterize this problem as a medium grade data corruption issue.  It's

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Josh Berkus
So that's my take on it. It's not a tomorrow severity release (we've been living with the workaround for months, even though it is blocking some things), but I would really appreciate an expedited release to enable unattended hot-standby operation and to avoid scaring those who encounter

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Florian Pflug
On Nov9, 2011, at 23:53 , Daniel Farina wrote: I think a novice user would be scared half to death: I know I was the first time. That's not a great impression for the project to leave for what is not, at its root, a vast defect, and the fact it's occurring for people when they use rsync

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 11/09/2011 03:56 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: So that's my take on it. It's not a tomorrow severity release (we've been living with the workaround for months, even though it is blocking some things), but I would really appreciate an expedited release to enable unattended hot-standby operation

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Josh Berkus
Ehhh That week is kind of moot for most of the United States. Shouldn't it be like Tuesday the week after? Given that we start packaging on Thursday, that would mean waiting an additional 2 weeks. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote: Ehhh That week is kind of moot for most of the United States. Shouldn't it be like Tuesday the week after? Given that we start packaging on Thursday, that would mean waiting an additional 2 weeks. Yeah, I don't see

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 21:12 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: The point is that all the packaging will be done *before* people leave to go eat Turkey. Eating me? -- Devrim GÜNDÜZ Principal Systems Engineer @ EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com PostgreSQL Danışmanı/Consultant, Red Hat Certified

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Haas
2011/11/9 Devrim GÜNDÜZ dev...@gunduz.org: On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 21:12 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: The point is that all the packaging will be done *before* people leave to go eat Turkey. Eating me? :-) No, just your country. -- Robert Haas EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com The

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 11/09/2011 06:15 PM, Robert Haas wrote: 2011/11/9 Devrim GÜNDÜZdev...@gunduz.org: On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 21:12 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: The point is that all the packaging will be done *before* people leave to go eat Turkey. Eating me? :-) No, just your country. I hear it is a

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-09 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote: Given that we start packaging on Thursday, that would mean waiting an additional 2 weeks. Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with the 21st. One advantage of waiting two more weeks is

[HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-08 Thread Greg Jaskiewicz
Given the amount of fixes that went into the branch, and importance of them - when can we expect 9.1.2 to be released officially ? 9.1.1 was stamped on 22nd of September. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription:

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-08 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Jaskiewicz g...@pointblue.com.pl writes: Given the amount of fixes that went into the branch, and importance of them - when can we expect 9.1.2 to be released officially ? 9.1.1 was stamped on 22nd of September. That's barely more than six weeks ago. Usually, in the absence of any

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-08 Thread Greg Smith
On 11/08/2011 07:34 PM, Tom Lane wrote: I don't recall that we've fixed anything since September that seemed to warrant an immediate release. The backup+pg_clog failure issues fixed last week have been a nasty problem hitting people for a while. Backup corruption is obviously serious.

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-08 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com writes: I was curious how 9.0 fared last year for comparison, here's that data: Version Date Days Weeks 9.0.009/20/10 9.0.110/04/10142.0 9.0.212/16/107310.4 9.0.301/31/11466.6 9.0.404/18/117711.0

Re: [HACKERS] 9.1.2 ?

2011-11-08 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Nov 9, 2011 3:25 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com writes: I was curious how 9.0 fared last year for comparison, here's that data: Version Date Days Weeks 9.0.009/20/10 9.0.110/04/10142.0 9.0.212/16/107310.4