Re: [HACKERS] A huge debt of gratitude - Michael Stonebraker

2015-07-23 Thread Oleg Bartunov
Nice to hear you again Jolly !

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Jolly Chen jo...@chenfamily.com wrote:

 Hey everyone,

 You have probably heard that Mike Stonebraker recently won the Turing
 award.  A recording of his award lecture is available at:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGeKi6T6QI

 It is an entertaining talk overall. If you fast forward to about the 1:07
 mark, he makes some comments about postgres.

 Here’s my rough transcription:

 The abstract data type system in postgres has been added to a lot of
 relational database systems. It's kind of de facto table stakes for
 relational databases these days, essentially intact.  That idea was really
 a good one. It was mentioned in the citation for my Turing award winning.
 However, serendipity played a huge role, which is, the biggest impact of
 postgres by far came from two Berkeley students that I'll affectionately
 call Grumpy and Sleepy.  They converted the academic postgres prototype
 from QUEL to SQL in 1995. This was in parallel to the commercial activity.
 And then a pick-up team of volunteers, none of whom have anything to do
 with me or Berkeley, have been shepherding that open source system ever
 since 1995. The system that you get off the web for postgres comes from
 this pick-up team.  It is open source at its best and I want to just
 mention that I have nothing to do with that and that collection of folks we
 all owe a huge debt of gratitude to, because they have robustize that code
 line and made it so it really works.”

 Thank you all so much for your hard work over the last twenty years!!

 Affectionately,

 Grumpy



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Re: [HACKERS] A huge debt of gratitude - Michael Stonebraker

2015-07-23 Thread Gurjeet Singh
On Jul 22, 2015 12:07 PM, Jolly Chen jo...@chenfamily.com wrote:

 Hey everyone,

 You have probably heard that Mike Stonebraker recently won the Turing
award.  A recording of his award lecture is available at:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGeKi6T6QI

 It is an entertaining talk overall. If you fast forward to about the 1:07
mark, he makes some comments about postgres.

 Here’s my rough transcription:

 The abstract data type system in postgres has been added to a lot of
relational database systems. It's kind of de facto table stakes for
relational databases these days, essentially intact.  That idea was really
a good one. It was mentioned in the citation for my Turing award winning.
However, serendipity played a huge role, which is, the biggest impact of
postgres by far came from two Berkeley students that I'll affectionately
call Grumpy and Sleepy.  They converted the academic postgres prototype
from QUEL to SQL in 1995. This was in parallel to the commercial activity.
And then a pick-up team of volunteers, none of whom have anything to do
with me or Berkeley, have been shepherding that open source system ever
since 1995. The system that you get off the web for postgres comes from
this pick-up team.  It is open source at its best and I want to just
mention that I have nothing to do with that and that collection of folks we
all owe a huge debt of gratitude to, because they have robustize that code
line and made it so it really works.”

 Thank you all so much for your hard work over the last twenty years!!

 Affectionately,

 Grumpy

Thank you! And a big thanks to the stewards of the project.

Sincerely,


Re: [HACKERS] A huge debt of gratitude - Michael Stonebraker

2015-07-22 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Jolly Chen jo...@chenfamily.com wrote:
 You have probably heard that Mike Stonebraker recently won the Turing award.  
 A recording of his award lecture is available at:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGeKi6T6QI

 It is an entertaining talk overall. If you fast forward to about the 1:07 
 mark, he makes some comments about postgres.

 Here’s my rough transcription:

 The abstract data type system in postgres has been added to a lot of 
 relational database systems. It's kind of de facto table stakes for 
 relational databases these days, essentially intact.  That idea was really a 
 good one. It was mentioned in the citation for my Turing award winning.  
 However, serendipity played a huge role, which is, the biggest impact of 
 postgres by far came from two Berkeley students that I'll affectionately call 
 Grumpy and Sleepy.  They converted the academic postgres prototype from QUEL 
 to SQL in 1995. This was in parallel to the commercial activity. And then a 
 pick-up team of volunteers, none of whom have anything to do with me or 
 Berkeley, have been shepherding that open source system ever since 1995. The 
 system that you get off the web for postgres comes from this pick-up team.  
 It is open source at its best and I want to just mention that I have nothing 
 to do with that and that collection of folks we all owe a huge debt of 
 gratitude to, because they have robustize that code line and made it so it 
 really works.”

 Thank you all so much for your hard work over the last twenty years!!

Wow, thanks for reaching out.  Here is a quote from the current
version of src/test/regress/input/misc.source:

--
-- BTREE shutting out non-functional updates
--
-- the following two tests seem to take a long time on some
-- systems.This non-func update stuff needs to be examined
-- more closely.- jolly (2/22/96)
--

That comment might be obsolete, but we still have it, and a few other
references.  :-)

-- 
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company


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[HACKERS] A huge debt of gratitude - Michael Stonebraker

2015-07-22 Thread Jolly Chen
Hey everyone,

You have probably heard that Mike Stonebraker recently won the Turing award.  A 
recording of his award lecture is available at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGeKi6T6QI

It is an entertaining talk overall. If you fast forward to about the 1:07 mark, 
he makes some comments about postgres.

Here’s my rough transcription:

The abstract data type system in postgres has been added to a lot of 
relational database systems. It's kind of de facto table stakes for relational 
databases these days, essentially intact.  That idea was really a good one. It 
was mentioned in the citation for my Turing award winning.  However, 
serendipity played a huge role, which is, the biggest impact of postgres by far 
came from two Berkeley students that I'll affectionately call Grumpy and 
Sleepy.  They converted the academic postgres prototype from QUEL to SQL in 
1995. This was in parallel to the commercial activity. And then a pick-up team 
of volunteers, none of whom have anything to do with me or Berkeley, have been 
shepherding that open source system ever since 1995. The system that you get 
off the web for postgres comes from this pick-up team.  It is open source at 
its best and I want to just mention that I have nothing to do with that and 
that collection of folks we all owe a huge debt of gratitude to, because they 
have robustize that code line and made it so it really works.”

Thank you all so much for your hard work over the last twenty years!!

Affectionately,

Grumpy



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