Re: [HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-11-10 Thread Tom Lane
[ back from vacation and slowly catching up on email ] Dimitri Fontaine dimi...@2ndquadrant.fr writes: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: I think we were going to try to group the extensions into categories (debugging tools, demonstration code, data types, etc.) and maybe encourage

Re: [HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-10-09 Thread Dimitri Fontaine
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: I think we were going to try to group the extensions into categories (debugging tools, demonstration code, data types, etc.) and maybe encourage packagers to put the debugging tools in the same OS package as the core server. But Tom was not

Re: [HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-10-04 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: Greg Smith made a list some months ago of contrib modules that were essential for forensics analysis and such. Weren't we going to do

Re: [HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-10-04 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: I think we were going to try to group the extensions into categories (debugging tools, demonstration code, data types, etc.) and maybe encourage packagers to put the debugging tools in the same OS package as the core

[HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-10-03 Thread Sergey Konoplev
Hi, In my practice I quite often face the problem of bloated tables. I usually use pgstattuple to perform investigations. I also create a tool that uses UPDATEs based way to smoothly remove bloat (https://github.com/grayhemp/pgtoolkit), and it partially depends on pgstatuple too. To be more

Re: [HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-10-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Sergey Konoplev gray...@gmail.com wrote: In my practice I quite often face the problem of bloated tables. I usually use pgstattuple to perform investigations. I also create a tool that uses UPDATEs based way to smoothly remove bloat

Re: [HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-10-03 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: Well, this is a general problem with any extension - somebody might want it on a system on which the admin is unable or unwilling to install it. But we can't put every possible extension in core. The flip-side is that we

Re: [HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-10-03 Thread Sergey Konoplev
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: Well, this is a general problem with any extension - somebody might want it on a system on which the admin is unable or unwilling to install it. But

Re: [HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-10-03 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Sergey Konoplev escribió: On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: Well, this is a general problem with any extension - somebody might want it on a system on which the admin is unable or

Re: [HACKERS] Any reasons to not move pgstattuple to core?

2013-10-03 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: Greg Smith made a list some months ago of contrib modules that were essential for forensics analysis and such. Weren't we going to do something special about those? It was more like two years ago. I do still think