Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-03-01 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 08:24, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > > http://gforge.org/ is not a hosting site, that is why you only found > 4 > > Well that's what you get when you write messages at 2:30 AM. Should > know > better. > > But on this topic, does a site based on GForge similar to Sourceforge > ex

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date

2004-03-01 Thread Josh Berkus
Tom, > I was quite surprised to read this, and I'm sure Dave Lawrence (RH's BZ > maintainer) would be too. As would be the thousands of people who > regularly use bugzilla.redhat.com. My sincerest apologies to you and Dave Lawrence. I misunderstood what I was being told on this list. A rev

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date

2004-03-01 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane said: > Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> C. BZ does not have any PG support in its default branch, and the RH >> port is currently unmaintained. > > I was quite surprised to read this, and I'm sure Dave Lawrence (RH's BZ > maintainer) would be too. As would be the thousands of

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-03-01 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
> http://gforge.org/ is not a hosting site, that is why you only found 4 Well that's what you get when you write messages at 2:30 AM. Should know better. But on this topic, does a site based on GForge similar to Sourceforge exist ? -- Kaare Rasmussen--Linux, spil,--Tlf:

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date

2004-02-29 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > C. BZ does not have any PG support in its default branch, and the RH port is > currently unmaintained. I was quite surprised to read this, and I'm sure Dave Lawrence (RH's BZ maintainer) would be too. As would be the thousands of people who regularly use

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date

2004-02-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Neil Conway wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > D. One possible reservation may be integrating RT with GForge. > > I'm confused. Are we considering moving core backend development over > to GForge as well, or just GBorg? (Personally the former doesn't > strike me as a good idea, a

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date

2004-02-29 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks, Re: moving the main project to GForge/whatever: we're not considering that at this time. The way the discussion got entangled is that a few people mentioned wanting a better bug tracker than then one offered with GForge, and that we are considering using a Bug Tracker for the main proje

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date

2004-02-29 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Neil Conway wrote: Josh Berkus wrote: D. One possible reservation may be integrating RT with GForge. I'm confused. Are we considering moving core backend development over to GForge as well, or just GBorg? (Personally the former doesn't strike me as a good idea, at least initially.) You a

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date

2004-02-29 Thread Josh Berkus
Neil, > Frankly, I think the PostgreSQL project would be sending "the wrong > message" if we chose our tools on any basis other than functionality. > We ought to use what works, whether it supports PG or not. Whether the > bug tracker tool uses PostgreSQL, flat files or MS Access to store > da

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date

2004-02-29 Thread Neil Conway
Josh Berkus wrote: D. One possible reservation may be integrating RT with GForge. I'm confused. Are we considering moving core backend development over to GForge as well, or just GBorg? (Personally the former doesn't strike me as a good idea, at least initially.) I think that the PostgreSQL proj

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date

2004-02-29 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks, I thought that I would give everyone a summary of the current discussion of collaboration tools and bug-trackers for our project as I read them. I think that we are quite close to a consensus. Please comment if I've missed something. GBorg-->GForge migration: so far, nobody has obj

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread Tim Larson
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:35:59AM +0100, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > > Why GForge? > > GForge seems to be technically OK. But what about the future outlook. The home > page lists 5 projects, whereof the 4 are tests. Are you sure they will not > fold in a month or two, will they be reliable, respon

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
> Why GForge? GForge seems to be technically OK. But what about the future outlook. The home page lists 5 projects, whereof the 4 are tests. Are you sure they will not fold in a month or two, will they be reliable, responsive and real nice (the three r's) ? -- Kaare Rasmussen--Lin

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread Bort, Paul
ibility that it will later turn out to be a free straitjacket. Regards, Paul > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal &

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread David Costa
On Feb 26, 2004, at 6:53 PM, Joseph Tate wrote: Josh Berkus wrote: Folks, Discuss: Has anyone talked to the people at collabnet (http://www.collab.net)? I wonder if they'd be willing to put something together for the PostgreSQL team? They run the tigris.org site, which is one of the nicest O

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread janos
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[HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-26 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks, Discuss/vote/object/scream&shout: PROPOSAL: GBorg --> GForge Migration Why do we want a full-service collaboration tool? PostgreSQL is no longer a monolithic project, but rather a collection of closely related projects. Some of these projects are official, some are unofficial, some are

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-26 Thread Joseph Tate
Josh Berkus wrote: Folks, Discuss: Has anyone talked to the people at collabnet (http://www.collab.net)? I wonder if they'd be willing to put something together for the PostgreSQL team? They run the tigris.org site, which is one of the nicest OSS collaboration sites I've worked with. GForg

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-26 Thread Josh Berkus
Joseph, Thanks for feedback. > Has anyone talked to the people at collabnet (http://www.collab.net)? I > wonder if they'd be willing to put something together for the PostgreSQL > team? They run the tigris.org site, which is one of the nicest OSS > collaboration sites I've worked with. GFor

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-26 Thread Robert Treat
On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 13:19, Josh Berkus wrote: > > What does the Apache project run? > > Not sure. Anyone? > Apache uses a home-brew collection of OSS tools. I think they have the advantage of a larger community of web developers to help out than we have ;-) Josh, are you still in favor of t

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-26 Thread Josh Berkus
Robert, > Josh, are you still in favor of this move if the larger community does > not want to move the main project to a gforge based system? or vice > versa? Not sure. Depends on what the leads of the associated projects think. Obviously, if everyone's dead set against it, we won't do it.

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-26 Thread Jeroen T. Vermeulen
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 10:49:46AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > > Not sure. Depends on what the leads of the associated projects think. > Obviously, if everyone's dead set against it, we won't do it. I for one am willing to try this in the near term. I've got an external domain (pqxx.tk) poi

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-26 Thread Josh Berkus
Jeroen, > I for one am willing to try this in the near term. Great! > I've got an external > domain (pqxx.tk) pointing to the libpqxx page on GBorg, and moving it over > to a new URL is child's play. My main worry is transition management: > > - How will mailing list subscribers be affected?