Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2013-01-21 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On 21 January 2013 13:10, Noah Misch wrote: > What filesystem did you use for testing? Would you also provide /proc/cpuinfo > or a rough description of the system's CPUs? Unfortunately, I don't have access to that server at the moment. It's under Greg Smith's control. I believe you yourself had

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2013-01-20 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On 19 January 2013 20:38, Noah Misch wrote: > staticloud.com seems to be gone. Would you repost these? I've pushed these to a git repo, hosted on github. https://github.com/petergeoghegan/commit_delay_benchmarks I'm sorry that I didn't take the time to make the html benchmarks easily viewable

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-19 Thread Peter Geoghegan
I've added this to the open commitfest. I think that a formal review is probably required here. -- Peter Geoghegan http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-15 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On 16 November 2012 01:20, Stephen Frost wrote: > Setting it at run-time was actually my first thought on this. I'm > disappointed to hear that it didn't work out well. I actually did quite a lot of research on it, that was interesting, but ultimately didn't lead to any breakthroughs. There was

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-15 Thread Stephen Frost
* Peter Geoghegan (pe...@2ndquadrant.com) wrote: > I am inclined to agree. I did attempt to use the instrumentation > macros to have commit_delay set adaptively at runtime, which would > have at least addressed this concern, but that just didn't work as > well as this. Setting it at run-time was a

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-15 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On 15 November 2012 08:56, Greg Smith wrote: > My main concern with this would be the relatively common practice of moving > the pg_xlog directory after initdb time. I probably should have increased the default number of seconds that pg_test_fsync runs for, in light of the fact that that can make

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-15 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On 15 November 2012 10:04, Magnus Hagander wrote: >> I would rather see this just turn into one of the things a more general >> tuning tool knew how to do, executing against a fully setup system. Having a >> useful implementation of commit_delay and useful docs on it seems like >> enough of a jump

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-15 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Greg Smith wrote: > On 11/15/12 12:19 AM, Albe Laurenz wrote: >> >> If there is an agreement that half the sync time as reported by >> pg_test_fsync is a good value, would it make sense to have initdb test >> sync time and preset commit_delay? > > > Peter has valid

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-15 Thread Craig Ringer
On 11/15/2012 04:56 PM, Greg Smith wrote: > > I would rather see this just turn into one of the things a more > general tuning tool knew how to do, executing against a fully setup > system. Having a useful implementation of commit_delay and useful docs > on it seems like enough of a jump forward fo

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-15 Thread Greg Smith
On 11/15/12 12:19 AM, Albe Laurenz wrote: If there is an agreement that half the sync time as reported by pg_test_fsync is a good value, would it make sense to have initdb test sync time and preset commit_delay? Peter has validated this against a good range of systems, but it would be optimist

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-15 Thread Albe Laurenz
Peter Geoghegan wrote: > Some of you will be aware that I've tried to formulate a good general > recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay, in light of the > improvements made in 9.3. I previously asked for help finding a > methodology for optimising commit_delay [1]. The documentation r

Re: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-14 Thread David Rowley
> -Original Message- > From: pgsql-hackers-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-hackers- > ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Peter Geoghegan > Sent: 15 November 2012 09:44 > To: PG Hackers > Subject: [HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the >

[HACKERS] Doc patch making firm recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay

2012-11-14 Thread Peter Geoghegan
Some of you will be aware that I've tried to formulate a good general recommendation for setting the value of commit_delay, in light of the improvements made in 9.3. I previously asked for help finding a methodology for optimising commit_delay [1]. The documentation related to commit_delay still sa