Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Nathan Myers
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 01:17:15AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: Here's my response to the inaccurate article cmp produced. After chatting with Marc I decided to post it myself. ... Where do you get your info? Do you just make it up? PostgreSQL is not a product of Great Bridge and

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread The Hermit Hacker
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Nathan Myers wrote: This is probably a good time to point out that this is the _worst_ _possible_ response to erroneous reportage. The perception by readers will not be that the reporter failed, but that PostgreSQL advocates are rabid weasels who don't appreciate

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Here's my response to the inaccurate article cmp produced. After chatting with Marc I decided to post it myself. Since I know Ned reads this list, I formally request that he also insists PUBLICALLY that cmp correct their inaccuracies. I'm rather disappointed (for lack of a more

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Here's my response to the inaccurate article cmp produced. After chatting with Marc I decided to post it myself. Since I know Ned reads this list, I formally request that he also insists PUBLICALLY that cmp correct their inaccuracies. I'm rather disappointed (for lack of a more

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
It will be harder than the original mailings, but I urge each who wrote to write again and apologize for attacking her. In a way, I think you are right .. I think the attack was aimed at the wrong ppl :( She obviously didn't get *any* of her information from ppl that belong *in* the Pg

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Lamar Owen
Bruce Momjian wrote: Not that it shouldn't be fixed. I just don't get worked up over it. Well, in a way I regret bringing it to the attention of the community -- just in a small way. But at the same time I realized that I was not the right one at that time to craft a reply -- after all, I'm a

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Nathan Myers
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 11:44:48AM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Nathan Myers wrote: This is probably a good time to point out that this is the _worst_ _possible_ response to erroneous reportage. The perception by readers will not be that the reporter failed, but

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
Here's my response to the inaccurate article cmp produced. After chatting with Marc I decided to post it myself. Since I know Ned reads this list, I formally request that he also insists PUBLICALLY that cmp correct their inaccuracies. I'm rather disappointed (for lack of a more

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread The Hermit Hacker
the thing that pissed me off the most, and set me off, was the totally blatant errors ... we've had other articles written, with a GB slant to them, that didn't get my feathers in a ruffle ... the fact that they *talked* with GB, got quotes from them and some of their partners, and *still* got

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
I wanted to comment on how we handled this article. Seems the author did not understand the company/open-source relationship. This is not a huge surprise. I have to explain it to my friends and relatives all the time. Now, our way of dealing with users who ask questions is to gently lead them

Re: [HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-15 Thread Bruce Momjian
You can tell people why they shouldn't feel a certain way, but preventing them from expressing their feelings is usually a bad thing, unless their expression is hurting other people. (Hurting my feelings is OK.) I usually sit back until everyone's cards/feelings are on the table, and

[HACKERS] Fast Forward (fwd)

2001-04-14 Thread Vince Vielhaber
Here's my response to the inaccurate article cmp produced. After chatting with Marc I decided to post it myself. Since I know Ned reads this list, I formally request that he also insists PUBLICALLY that cmp correct their inaccuracies. I'm rather disappointed (for lack of a more descriptive