On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 16:58 +, Simon Riggs wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 22:28 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Where are we in getting to beta1? I know people are looking to me for
9.0 release notes and I will have them done in about a week, but what
about open issues? I don't see many
Hi all,
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 10:18 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
Or, let's put it another way: I've made my opinion clear in the past
that I think that we ought to ship with a minimal postgresql.conf with
maybe 15 items in it. If we are going to continue to ship with
postgresql.conf kitchen
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 23:29 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Simon Riggs wrote:
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 11:26 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
The list has been reduced greatly in the past week. What about HS/SR
open items?
I'd like to see vacuum_defer_cleanup_age added to the Archive section
It's already in the docs, so if they read it and understand it they can
add it to the postgresql.conf if they so choose.
I agree with Josh Berkus that vacuum_defer_cleanup_age should be in
postgresql.conf. We don't stop listing items just because they are
dangerous, e.g. fsync, or to
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 10:18 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
It's already in the docs, so if they read it and understand it they can
add it to the postgresql.conf if they so choose.
I agree with Josh Berkus that vacuum_defer_cleanup_age should be in
postgresql.conf. We don't stop listing
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
As usual, the postgresql.conf is entirely too full. We should ship with
the top 15.
Maybe, but what we should do is ship, and then talk about this again
when it's appropriate--earlier in the release cycle. Let me try and cut
this one off before it generates a bunch of
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 10:18 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
It's already in the docs, so if they read it and understand it they can
add it to the postgresql.conf if they so choose.
I agree with Josh Berkus that vacuum_defer_cleanup_age should be in
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 10:18 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
It's already in the docs, so if they read it and understand it they can
add it to the postgresql.conf if they so choose.
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 19:10 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 10:18 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
It's already in the docs, so if they read it and understand it
Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 10:18 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
Or, let's put it another way: I've made my opinion clear in the past
that I think that
On 3/18/10 4:54 PM, Greg Smith wrote:
If this is turning into a vote: -1 from me for any work on this until
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_9.0_Open_Items is cleared.
It boggles my mind that anyone could have a different prioritization
right now.
Yes. I wasn't suggesting that
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
If this is turning into a vote: -1 from me for any work on this until
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_9.0_Open_Items is cleared. It
boggles my mind that anyone could have a different prioritization right now.
All,
A user at SFPUG last night pointed out why we should release a beta,
rather than an alpha, sooner rather than later: because there are no
Windows packages for Alphas.
Currently, our Windows users are *not* testing 9.0. Which means we're
just putting off the day when we hear about
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
All,
A user at SFPUG last night pointed out why we should release a beta,
rather than an alpha, sooner rather than later: because there are no
Windows packages for Alphas.
Yes there:
Yes there: http://www.enterprisedb.com/products/pgdevdownload.do
We've produced them since Alpha 2 iirc.
Oh! Most people don't know about these ... I need to advertise them!
BTW, at SFPUG there were reports of some kind of issue with the
One-Click installer for 8.4.3. Is that resolved, or
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Yes there: http://www.enterprisedb.com/products/pgdevdownload.do
We've produced them since Alpha 2 iirc.
Oh! Most people don't know about these ... I need to advertise them!
They're linked from here, which you may want
Not aware of any issues - certainly none cropped up in QA. In fact,
this release should fix one of the long standing initdb failures we
see occasionally on some secure environments.
OK, I'll ask on our mailing list.
--
-- Josh Berkus
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 11:26 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
The list has been reduced greatly in the past week. What about HS/SR
open items?
I'd like to see vacuum_defer_cleanup_age added to the Archive section
of postgresql.conf,
Not all parameters are in postgresql.conf.sample. Encouraging
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 18:20 +0900, Fujii Masao wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
Where are we in getting to beta1? I know people are looking to me for
9.0 release notes and I will have them done in about a week, but what
about open issues? I
Simon Riggs wrote:
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 11:26 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
The list has been reduced greatly in the past week. What about HS/SR
open items?
I'd like to see vacuum_defer_cleanup_age added to the Archive section
of postgresql.conf,
Not all parameters are in
Bruce Momjian wrote:
Simon Riggs wrote:
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 11:26 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
The list has been reduced greatly in the past week. What about HS/SR
open items?
I'd like to see vacuum_defer_cleanup_age added to the Archive section
of postgresql.conf,
Not
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
Bruce Momjian wrote:
Simon Riggs wrote:
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 11:26 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
The list has been reduced greatly in the past week. What about HS/SR
open items?
I'd like to see
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes:
Yes, and on pgsql-docs rather than on this mailing list.
Or ... J.F.D.I (Just F Do It). That is, if someone contributed a
whole buncha new text to the tutorial on pgsql-docs, I can't imagine it
being rejected out of hand.
That was the bulk of the
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
Where are we in getting to beta1? I know people are looking to me for
9.0 release notes and I will have them done in about a week, but what
about open issues? I don't see many on the main 9.0 open items page:
David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com writes:
On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
I'm planning on writing a Guide to HS SR for the beta. Originally I
planned to put this in the main docs, but I couldn't figure out how to
fit it in there structurally. Plus, it needs more
Dimitri Fontaine wrote:
Maybe some more admin level tutorial would be great to have too, such as
how to find what's locking, how to monitor table and index usage to
determine which indexes to drop, which to create, how to monitor
things (slaves lag, hitratio, transactions, I/U/D activity, you
Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
Dimitri Fontaine wrote:
Maybe some more admin level tutorial would be great to have too, such as
how to find what's locking, how to monitor table and index usage to
determine which indexes to drop, which to create, how to monitor
things (slaves lag,
Dimitri Fontaine dfonta...@hi-media.com writes:
A lot of things are described in the manual and provided in munin or
nagios plugins already, but still the Tutorial looks like a good place
to give the recipes, ready-to-go queries etc.
This sounds like a pretty horrid idea. The tutorial is
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us writes:
This sounds like a pretty horrid idea. The tutorial is meant to be read
first, so it cannot depend on having already read any of the main
documentation. If we try to fill it with hints and tricks then either
it will be completely unintelligible to newbies,
On 3/15/10 5:47 AM, Dimitri Fontaine wrote:
Maybe it's time to start another thread if people want to follow-up on
expanding our tutorial.
Yes, and on pgsql-docs rather than on this mailing list.
Or ... J.F.D.I (Just F Do It). That is, if someone contributed a
whole buncha new text to the
Josh Berkus wrote:
Devs,
Also, I would like to have a Beta or at least a new alpha release before
April 3 for the test-fest, so that our volunteers aren't testing bugs
which are already patched.
We can easily create another alpha by April 3. I think the big question
is whether we can put
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
We can easily create another alpha by April 3. I think the big question
is whether we can put out beta1 while we still have open HS/SR issues.
My guess is no. My other guess is that we will still have open HS/SR
issues on
Simon Riggs wrote:
I have these things on my list
* Minor page xid bug fix
* btree delete standby-side derivation of xid
* review of StartupXLog issue, on open items list, has an effect on HS
I expect to be finished with those by Wed, perhaps Thurs.
Don't forget the start from shutdown
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 16:53 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
Simon Riggs wrote:
I have these things on my list
* Minor page xid bug fix
* btree delete standby-side derivation of xid
* review of StartupXLog issue, on open items list, has an effect on HS
I expect to be finished with
On 3/14/10 9:02 AM, Simon Riggs wrote:
An explanation in the docs would be good. And also a hint of how to
failover if you decide in an emergency that the absence was a mistake,
in retrospect.
I'm planning on writing a Guide to HS SR for the beta. Originally I
planned to put this in the main
Devs,
Also, I would like to have a Beta or at least a new alpha release before
April 3 for the test-fest, so that our volunteers aren't testing bugs
which are already patched.
--Josh
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On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
I'm planning on writing a Guide to HS SR for the beta. Originally I
planned to put this in the main docs, but I couldn't figure out how to
fit it in there structurally. Plus, it needs more examples, output
samples, and a tutorial feel.
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 22:28 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Where are we in getting to beta1? I know people are looking to me for
9.0 release notes and I will have them done in about a week, but what
about open issues? I don't see many on the main 9.0 open items page:
The list has been reduced greatly in the past week. What about HS/SR
open items?
I'd like to see vacuum_defer_cleanup_age added to the Archive section
of postgresql.conf, and add it to the docs (I'll write something this
week). I'd like to get rid of the associated hint-bits bogus error
Where are we in getting to beta1? I know people are looking to me for
9.0 release notes and I will have them done in about a week, but what
about open issues? I don't see many on the main 9.0 open items page:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PostgreSQL_9.0_Open_Items#Bugs
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