Re: [HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add --synchronous option to pg_receivexlog, for more reliable WA

2015-11-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 9/15/15 11:04 PM, Fujii Masao wrote:
> If --slot option is specified, pg_receivexlog reports a flush position to
> the server even though --synchronous is not specified. So users might think
> that --synchrnous option is not necessary for synchronous pg_receivexlog
> setting. But that's not true. If --synchronous option is not specified, the
> received WAL data is flushed to the disk only when WAL segment is switched.
> So the transactions on the master need to wait for a long time, i.e.,
> we can think that synchronous pg_receivexlog doesn't work smoothly.
> To avoid such situation, --synchronous option also needs to be specified and
> which makes pg_receivexlog flush WAL data immediately after receiving it.

Thank you for this information.  I hope to have clarified this in the
documentation now.



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[HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add --synchronous option to pg_receivexlog, for more reliable WA

2015-09-15 Thread Fujii Masao
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Peter Eisentraut  wrote:
> On 11/17/14 12:34 PM, Fujii Masao wrote:
>> Add --synchronous option to pg_receivexlog, for more reliable WAL writing.
>
> The last two sentences of this piece of documentation are a bit
> hand-wavy and hard to parse.  Could you clarify this?

I think that what those sentences try to point is; to make pg_receivexlog run
as synchronous standby expectedly, both --slot and --synchronous options need
to be specified.

If --slot option is specified, pg_receivexlog reports a flush position to
the server even though --synchronous is not specified. So users might think
that --synchrnous option is not necessary for synchronous pg_receivexlog
setting. But that's not true. If --synchronous option is not specified, the
received WAL data is flushed to the disk only when WAL segment is switched.
So the transactions on the master need to wait for a long time, i.e.,
we can think that synchronous pg_receivexlog doesn't work smoothly.
To avoid such situation, --synchronous option also needs to be specified and
which makes pg_receivexlog flush WAL data immediately after receiving it.

Regards,

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[HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Add --synchronous option to pg_receivexlog, for more reliable WA

2015-09-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 11/17/14 12:34 PM, Fujii Masao wrote:
> Add --synchronous option to pg_receivexlog, for more reliable WAL writing.

The last two sentences of this piece of documentation are a bit
hand-wavy and hard to parse.  Could you clarify this?

 
  -S slotname
  --slot=slotname
  

 Require pg_receivexlog to use an existing
 replication slot (see ).
 When this option is used, pg_receivexlog will report
 a flush position to the server, indicating when each segment has been
 synchronized to disk so that the server can remove that segment if it
 is not otherwise needed. --synchronous option must
 be specified when making pg_receivexlog run as
 synchronous standby by using replication slot. Otherwise WAL data
 cannot be flushed frequently enough for this to work correctly.

  
 



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