Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? (postmaster windows shell)
I am working on getting a shrink-wrapped version of PostgreSQL for WindowsCurrently it installs a customized version of Cygwin, PostgreSQL 7.2.3, cygipc, psqlodbc, and pgadminIII currently have the setup done. Cool :) I'm now working on postmaster windows shell. It's not finished yet but main things work. Funcionality implemented now is : Console redirection for capture output from postmaster Starting-stoping postmaster Choose for shutdown mode System tray icon Postmaster options are read from registry -postmaster path -datadir -additional options Funcionality not implementedyet, but planned: Writing captured output from postmaster to log file Options setup dialog Edit pg_hba.conf ??? Application is MFC free pure windows API (compiler:gcc-mingw, Dev-C++ IDE) . Here is the screenshot I also be GLAD to read about plans for native windows port in 7.4. If anyone is interested i can post source code, or maybe this firrst steps can go to gborg as a separate project i'm not sure yet. PS: Excuse me for my english, I'm better in C :)
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? (postmaster windows
Hey this is a cool project. I have been thinking doing the exact ame thing, the console Window of 2K/XP just kills the daemon, yuck. What can I do to help? Igor Georgiev wrote: I am working on getting a shrink-wrapped version of PostgreSQL for Windows Currently it installs a customized version of Cygwin, PostgreSQL 7.2.3, cygipc, psqlodbc, and pgadminII I currently have the setup done. Cool :) I'm now working on postmaster windows shell. It's not finished yet but main things work. Funcionality implemented now is : Console redirection for capture output from postmaster Starting-stoping postmaster Choose for shutdown mode System tray icon Postmaster options are read from registry -postmaster path -datadir -additional options Funcionality not implemented yet, but planned : Writing captured output from postmaster to log file Options setup dialog Edit pg_hba.conf ??? Application is MFC free pure windows API (compiler:gcc-mingw, Dev-C++ IDE) . Here is the screenshot I also be GLAD to read about plans for native windows port in 7.4. If anyone is interested i can post source code, or maybe this firrst steps can go to gborg as a separate project i'm not sure yet. PS: Excuse me for my english, I'm better in C :)
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? (postmaster
Igor Georgiev wrote: snip I also be GLAD to read about plans for native windows port in 7.4. If anyone is interested i can post source code, or maybe this firrst steps can go to gborg as a separate project i'm not sure yet. Hi Igor, This would be a really good thing to get into GBorg as a project, so people could work on this through CVS. Would you like to register it as a project? Mark, do you feel it would be better to put your installer plus this together into one project on GBorg too? Not sure, it's just a thought. :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift -- My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there. - Indira Gandhi ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? (postmaster
Justin Clift wrote: Igor Georgiev wrote: snip I also be GLAD to read about plans for native windows port in 7.4. If anyone is interested i can post source code, or maybe this firrst steps can go to gborg as a separate project i'm not sure yet. Hi Igor, This would be a really good thing to get into GBorg as a project, so people could work on this through CVS. Would you like to register it as a project? Mark, do you feel it would be better to put your installer plus this together into one project on GBorg too? Not sure, it's just a thought. The installer is simply a script, the ino installer, and a strategy. I install enough Cygwin to run PostgreSQL, and a few batch files, I then compile that into an install file. No biggie. Igor's console program is cool, I was thinking of writing something just like it. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? (postmaster
Justin Clift wrote: Hi Igor, This would be a really good thing to get into GBorg as a project, so people could work on this through CVS. Would you like to register it as a project? Mark, do you feel it would be better to put your installer plus this together into one project on GBorg too? Not sure, it's just a thought. I just want to say, the Windows installer was pretty easy once you decide that you are not going to give the user who installs the system the infinite range of options that they would have if they installed cygwin and went from there. We decided on a good middle of the road installation that would work for advanced users. If they want an enterprise server, they will have to modify the installation themselves. I have developed Windows programs since version 1,x, what I see as one of the bigger hurdles in providing UNIX products on Windows is that the UNIX philosophy is that of Capability not Policy. Windows demands a Policy, i.e. when the install is done, they should be able to press start and use it. To do that with postgresql, you have to create an install that will work for most of the people that will want to use it, out of the box, with no fuss. I know I am pontificating, but I do think there is a HUGE market for PostgreSQL on Windows, we just have to figure out how to get it. What I want, is an install that application developers can use as the basis for their ODBC or SQL based projects, instead of MSSQL. Sort of like a Developers version of PostgreSQL. Once we do that, the we have the hook for more reliable and powerful systems. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? (postmaster
mlw wrote: snip Once we do that, the we have the hook for more reliable and powerful systems. Yep, I pretty much agree. :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift -- My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there. - Indira Gandhi ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? (postmaster
Justin: Are you involved with gborg? I have been thinking about Igor's console and my installer. I think there is a good enough need to host a project that contains HOWTOs, scripts, and tools to make PostgreSQL easy for Windows deployment. I am working on a HOWTO, a set of Windows batch files, and the install scripts I would be glad to post, and I would be very glad to include Igor's console in the install. It would make a cool offering. Justin Clift wrote: mlw wrote: snip Once we do that, the we have the hook for more reliable and powerful systems. Yep, I pretty much agree. :-) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? (postmaster
Hi Mark, mlw wrote: Justin: Are you involved with gborg? Nope, that's Chris Ryan's area. :) I have been thinking about Igor's console and my installer. I think there is a good enough need to host a project that contains HOWTOs, scripts, and tools to make PostgreSQL easy for Windows deployment. It is good to keep all of the instructions+code together, or better to put the instructions somewhere (i.e. the Techdocs site) plus links to the Gborg project to get the code. Either way could work, etc. I am working on a HOWTO, a set of Windows batch files, and the install scripts I would be glad to post, and I would be very glad to include Igor's console in the install. Yep, he does seem to have created a pretty nifty console. It would make a cool offering. :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift -- My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there. - Indira Gandhi ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone?
-Original Message- From: mlw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 December 2002 06:17 To: psqlodbc; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? I am working on getting a shrink-wrapped version of PostgreSQL for Windows Currently it installs a customized version of Cygwin, PostgreSQL 7.2.3, cygipc, psqlodbc, and pgadminII I currently have the setup done. The target audience is not the enterprise, it is aimed at people using Access wanting to upgrade. I've looked long and hard and can't find any license issues. Does anyone know of any that I may have missed? As far as I can see, as long as I maintain GPL restrictions, I should be fine. No problems with pgAdmin, though I do have to wonder how you've done the installer? Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone?
I've looked long and hard and can't find any license issues. Does anyone know of any that I may have missed? As far as I can see, as long as I maintain GPL restrictions, I should be fine. PostgreSQL isn't licensed under the GPL, so it sounds to me as though you're confused about the licensing issues. -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne @cbbrowne.com) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/lsf.html My mom said she learned how to swim. Someone took her out in the lake and threw her off the boat. That's how she learned how to swim. I said, 'Mom, they weren't trying to teach you how to swim.' -- Paula Poundstone ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've looked long and hard and can't find any license issues. Does anyone know of any that I may have missed? As far as I can see, as long as I maintain GPL restrictions, I should be fine. PostgreSQL isn't licensed under the GPL, so it sounds to me as though you're confused about the licensing issues. I'm not confused about the licensing issues. PostgreSQL is less restrictive than is GPL. Maybe I should have phrased it as the most restrictive license is GPL, so as long as I maintain GPL restrictions I should be fine. -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne @cbbrowne.com) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/lsf.html My mom said she learned how to swim. Someone took her out in the lake and threw her off the boat. That's how she learned how to swim. I said, 'Mom, they weren't trying to teach you how to swim.' -- Paula Poundstone ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 December 2002 12:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? I've looked long and hard and can't find any license issues. Does anyone know of any that I may have missed? As far as I can see, as long as I maintain GPL restrictions, I should be fine. PostgreSQL isn't licensed under the GPL, so it sounds to me as though you're confused about the licensing issues. No, I don't think he is - Cygwin is GPL and psqlODBC is LGPL. Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone?
Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: mlw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 December 2002 06:17 To: psqlodbc; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? I am working on getting a shrink-wrapped version of PostgreSQL for Windows Currently it installs a customized version of Cygwin, PostgreSQL 7.2.3, cygipc, psqlodbc, and pgadminII I currently have the setup done. The target audience is not the enterprise, it is aimed at people using Access wanting to upgrade. I've looked long and hard and can't find any license issues. Does anyone know of any that I may have missed? As far as I can see, as long as I maintain GPL restrictions, I should be fine. No problems with pgAdmin, though I do have to wonder how you've done the installer? Regards, Dave. Brute force, of course! Seriously, I have hidden the cygwin environment and simply called it PostgreSQL. I am managing all he environment variables in my installer, and I am using Windows batch files to start bash which executes the PostgreSQL comands. I am using PGAdmin as the administration tool It really looks slick ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone?
-Original Message- From: mlw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 December 2002 12:44 To: Dave Page Cc: psqlodbc; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone? Dave Page wrote: No problems with pgAdmin, though I do have to wonder how you've done the installer? Regards, Dave. Brute force, of course! Seriously, I have hidden the cygwin environment and simply called it PostgreSQL. I am managing all he environment variables in my installer, and I am using Windows batch files to start bash which executes the PostgreSQL comands. I am using PGAdmin as the administration tool It really looks slick I was thinking more about how you've dealt with installing pgAdmin, or have you left it seperate? If you need any help with that side of it, just let me know... Sounds good though... Regards, Dave (aka [EMAIL PROTECTED]). ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone?
Brute force, of course! Seriously, I have hidden the cygwin environment and simply called it PostgreSQL. I am managing all he environment variables in my installer, and I am using Windows batch files to start bash which executes the PostgreSQL comands. I am using PGAdmin as the administration tool It really looks slick We've done great things at our office, using the free NullSoft installer (WinAmp): http://www.winamp.com/nsdn/nsis/ Chris ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone?
I am working on getting a shrink-wrapped version of PostgreSQL for Windows Currently it installs a customized version of Cygwin, PostgreSQL 7.2.3, cygipc, psqlodbc, and pgadminII I currently have the setup done. The target audience is not the enterprise, it is aimed at people using Access wanting to upgrade. I've looked long and hard and can't find any license issues. Does anyone know of any that I may have missed? As far as I can see, as long as I maintain GPL restrictions, I should be fine. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
