Bruce Momjian escribió:
We already have six levels of GUC settings:
postgresql.conf
user
database
session
function
subtransaction
If we add ALTER SYSTEM SET and config.d, we would then have eight.
Actually, conf.d (not config.d) would just be
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:59:05AM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
If we do this, perhaps we should unconditionally just print the file
name they have to delete to undo the operation in case the server
doesn't start;
However, bear in mind that if the DBA is administering a server through
On 8/5/13 2:36 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
Most of our users not on Heroku are running with superuser as the app
user now. Like, 95% of them based on my personal experience (because
our object permissions management sucks).
My percentage wouldn't be nearly that high. 95% of database installs
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 09:24:47PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
# ALTER SYSTEM SET shared_buffers = ‘8GB’ FORCE;
NOTICE: Changing shared_buffers only takes effect after a server restart.
ALTER SYSTEM
Will bad examples pop up in the Internet that just use FORCE all the
time? Sure they will,
: [HACKERS] Unsafe GUCs and ALTER SYSTEM WAS: Re: ALTER
SYSTEM SET
On 8/5/13 2:36 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
Most of our users not on Heroku are running with superuser as the app
user now. Like, 95% of them based on my personal experience (because
our object permissions management sucks).
My
On Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:01 AM Bruce Momjian wrote:
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 09:24:47PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
# ALTER SYSTEM SET shared_buffers = ‘8GB’ FORCE;
NOTICE: Changing shared_buffers only takes effect after a server
restart.
ALTER SYSTEM
Will bad examples pop up in
Stephen, all:
(forked from main ALTER SYSTEM discussion. this thread is meant to
discuss only this question:
E) whether unsafe settings or restart settings should be allowed in
ALTER SYSTEM SET.)
On 08/02/2013 01:48 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
Reflecting on this a bit more, I'm curious what your
Josh,
* Josh Berkus (j...@agliodbs.com) wrote:
Based on serving literally hundreds of clients, the below are the
settings we change on client servers 50% or more of the time. Other
settings I touch maybe 10% of the time. THese are also, in general, the
settings which I modify when we create
On 08/05/2013 10:49 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
Josh, I really have to ask- are these people who are implementing puppet
to control these configs really clamoring to have an 'ALTER SYSTEM' PG
command to have to code against instead of dealing with text files? I
feel like you're arguing for these
On 08/05/2013 08:02 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
On 08/05/2013 10:49 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
Josh, I really have to ask- are these people who are implementing puppet
to control these configs really clamoring to have an 'ALTER SYSTEM' PG
command to have to code against instead of dealing with text
On 08/05/2013 07:01 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
Stephen, all:
(forked from main ALTER SYSTEM discussion. this thread is meant to
discuss only this question:
E) whether unsafe settings or restart settings should be allowed in
ALTER SYSTEM SET.)
On 08/02/2013 01:48 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
On 08/05/2013 11:14 AM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
* in a few years from now people will just use superuser over the
network for almost all stuff because its easy and I can click around in
$gui, having potential unsafe operations available over the network
will in turn cause a lot of actual
* Josh Berkus (j...@agliodbs.com) wrote:
Nope. ALTER SYSTEM, from my POV, is mainly for folks who *don't* use
Puppet/Chef/whatever.
Ok, that's fine, but let's try to avoid making life difficult for those
who *do* use puppet/chef/whatever. This capability runs a very high
risk of that by
On 08/05/2013 08:21 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
On 08/05/2013 11:14 AM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
* in a few years from now people will just use superuser over the
network for almost all stuff because its easy and I can click around in
$gui, having potential unsafe operations available over the
On 08/05/2013 11:28 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Josh Berkus (j...@agliodbs.com) wrote:
Nope. ALTER SYSTEM, from my POV, is mainly for folks who *don't* use
Puppet/Chef/whatever.
Ok, that's fine, but let's try to avoid making life difficult for those
who *do* use puppet/chef/whatever.
* Josh Berkus (j...@agliodbs.com) wrote:
On 08/05/2013 11:14 AM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
* in a few years from now people will just use superuser over the
network for almost all stuff because its easy and I can click around in
$gui, having potential unsafe operations available over the
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:
Nope. ALTER SYSTEM, from my POV, is mainly for folks who *don't* use
Puppet/Chef/whatever. Here's where I see ALTER SYSTEM being useful:
* invididually managed servers with out centralized management (i.e. one
DBA, one
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