Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On mån, 2012-01-16 at 22:00 -0500, Greg Smith wrote: Adjusting that expectation is another side to pragmatism based on recent history I think needs to be acknowledged, but is unlikely to be improved on. 9.0 shipped on September 20. 9.1 shipped on September 11. If we say the last CF of each

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-17 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net wrote: On mån, 2012-01-16 at 22:00 -0500, Greg Smith wrote: Adjusting that expectation is another side to pragmatism based on recent history I think needs to be acknowledged, but is unlikely to be improved on.  9.0 shipped on

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-16 Thread Robert Haas
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: I would have sworn I left this next to the bike shed...from the crickets chirping I guess not.  I did complete bumping forward the patches that slipped through the November CF the other day, and it's properly closed now.

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-16 Thread Josh Berkus
On 1/16/12 11:42 AM, Robert Haas wrote: But, I've noticed that nothing good comes of me pressing my own view too hard. Either we as a community value having the CommitFest wrap up in a reasonable period of time, or we don't. Reality is, alas, not nearly so binary as this, and therin lie the

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-16 Thread Greg Smith
On 01/16/2012 02:42 PM, Robert Haas wrote: But, I've noticed that nothing good comes of me pressing my own view too hard. Either we as a community value having the CommitFest wrap up in a reasonable period of time, or we don't. If we do, then let's make it happen together. If we don't, then

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-16 Thread Robert Haas
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: I think this is getting more predictable simply based on having some history.  The trail blazing you led here for some time didn't know what was and wasn't possible yet.  I feel that the basic shape of things, while still

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-16 Thread Greg Smith
On 01/16/2012 08:27 PM, Robert Haas wrote: the last two release cycles I've put huge amounts of energy into trying to get the release stable enough to release before July and August roll around and everybody disappears. It didn't work, either time. If that's not going to happen anyway, then

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-16 Thread Robert Haas
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Greg Smith g...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: On 01/16/2012 08:27 PM, Robert Haas wrote: the last two release cycles I've put huge amounts of energy into trying to get the release stable enough to release before July and August roll around and everybody disappears.  

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-14 Thread Greg Smith
On 01/09/2012 09:56 PM, Greg Smith wrote: The main question still lingering about is the viability of pushing out an 9.2alpha3 at this point. That was originally scheduled for December 20th. There was a whole lot of active code whacking still in progress that week though. And as soon as

[HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-09 Thread Josh Berkus
Shouldn't it have been closed weeks ago? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-09 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
On 09.01.2012 20:37, Josh Berkus wrote: Shouldn't it have been closed weeks ago? There are still patches in Needs Review and Ready for Committer states... -- Heikki Linnakangas EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-09 Thread Josh Berkus
On 1/9/12 10:39 AM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: On 09.01.2012 20:37, Josh Berkus wrote: Shouldn't it have been closed weeks ago? There are still patches in Needs Review and Ready for Committer states... Well, at this point I think we should bump them to CF4. Certainly nobody is working on

Re: [HACKERS] Why is CF 2011-11 still listed as In Progress?

2012-01-09 Thread Greg Smith
On 1/9/12 1:37 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: Shouldn't it have been closed weeks ago? It's still In Progress mostly because I flaked out for the holidays after pushing to get most things ready for commit or returned a few weeks ago, but not quite nailing it shut. I'm back to mostly full-time on