Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Rob Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That makes it sound as if you didn't do the same level of testing on *this* release, like it didn't go through all the tests or something. How about it does not have the extensive testing history that other supported platforms in

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Also, we probably have more beta testers on Win32 than on all Unix platforms combined, though they might not be testing as thoroughly as Unix. Maybe I am just being dense, but isn't this obvious? I mean this is the first release of the Win32 code. Anybody who would be willing to put it in

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Also, we probably have more beta testers on Win32 than on all Unix platforms combined, though they might not be testing as thoroughly as Unix. Maybe I am just being dense, but isn't this obvious? I mean this is the first release of the Win32 code. Anybody who

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Merlin Moncure
Altho tested throughout our release cycle, the Windows port does not have the benefit of the years of testing that has gone into the Unix platforms, and, as such, should be treated with the same level of caution as you would a new product Wow, that is good! Current wording is:

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: Also, we probably have more beta testers on Win32 than on all Unix platforms combined, though they might not be testing as thoroughly as Unix. Maybe I am just being dense, but isn't this obvious? I mean this is the first release of

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: Also, we probably have more beta testers on Win32 than on all Unix platforms combined, though they might not be testing as thoroughly as Unix. Maybe I am just being dense, but isn't this

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: There is already one for the beta. I don't see a need to add one for final release. Might be an idea ... if nothing else, something that at least reminds them about reporting bugs and where to do so? I'd hate to see 1000 ppl install, 90% see bugs adn

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Dann Corbit
, 2004 11:32 AM To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Joshua D. Drake; Tom Lane; Rob Butler; Dennis Bjorklund; Richard Huxton; Andrew Dunstan; Neil Conway; PostgreSQL Win32 port list; PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: There is already one for the beta. I don't see a need to add one for final release. Might be an idea ... if nothing else, something that at least reminds them about reporting bugs and where to do so? I'd hate to see

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: There is already one for the beta. I don't see a need to add one for final release. Might be an idea ... if nothing else, something that at least reminds them about reporting bugs and where

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
There is already one for the beta. I don't see a need to add one for final release. Might be an idea ... if nothing else, something that at least reminds them about reporting bugs and where to do so? I'd hate to see 1000 ppl install, 90% see bugs adn never have them reported :( Yes, I

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Magnus Hagander wrote: Right. So how would you get the email address, without starting the mail reader? have them enter one in a text box? We could add a checkbox that takes them to a webpage that permits subscription. But they are certainly going to need to put their email

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Magnus Hagander
Right. So how would you get the email address, without starting the mail reader? have them enter one in a text box? We could add a checkbox that takes them to a webpage that permits subscription. But they are certainly going to need to put their email address in there in some way...

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Darcy Buskermolen
On August 26, 2004 01:06 pm, Magnus Hagander wrote: pginstaller itself that would auto-mail that out ... Don't think that's going to work. You need th emailserver. In most cases, you need the login for the mailserver. Most companies and nowadays a lot of home ISPs block outbound SMTP unless

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Robert Treat
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 15:52, Magnus Hagander wrote: Also, maybe we should encourage them to subscribe to announce so we can announce any Win32 fix releases we might need. They probably aren't used to that procedure. Having installed enough Windows software over the years

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Magnus Hagander wrote: Right. So how would you get the email address, without starting the mail reader? have them enter one in a text box? We could add a checkbox that takes them to a webpage that permits subscription. But they are certainly going to need to put their email

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Robert Treat wrote: All we need to do is and in some of the klez/sobig tech and not only can we subscribe them, but we should be able to read through their address book and subscribe 50 of their closest friends without any prompting at all :-) We could, but make sure its in

Re: [pgsql-hackers-win32] [HACKERS] Win32 release warning

2004-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, release notes updated. --- Bruce Momjian wrote: OK, current text suggestion is: Although tested throughout our release cycle, the Windows port does not have the benefit of years of use