Re: [HACKERS] Anyone want to assist with the translation of the

2002-10-02 Thread cbbrowne
Justin wrote: Hi Michael, Michael Paesold wrote: snip Hi Justin, I am from Austria, and I would like to help. I could provide a German translation. The Babelfish's translation is really funny. Machine translation is readable, but it is no advocacy. ;-) I do not really nead an

Re: [HACKERS] Hot Backup

2002-10-24 Thread cbbrowne
, in a way; you get to look for some pretty odd-ball situations; the server room being overrun by Mongol Hordes. That particular one isn't too likely, of course :-). -- (reverse (concatenate 'string moc.enworbbc@ sirhc)) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/advocacy.html I've discovered that P=NP

Re: [HACKERS] RC1?

2002-11-13 Thread cbbrowne
. No one knows why Sun continues to ship old awk. I would be /very/ inclined to trust Patrick's wisdom on this. So long as we fix up the regression script to grab the nawk that we expect to work, that's probably nicer than figuring out which echo parameters are needed... -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne

Re: [HACKERS] Shrinkwrap Windows Product, any issues? Anyone?

2002-12-03 Thread cbbrowne
the licensing issues. -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne @cbbrowne.com) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/lsf.html My mom said she learned how to swim. Someone took her out in the lake and threw her off the boat. That's how she learned how to swim. I said, 'Mom, they weren't trying to teach you how

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Global Development Group Announces

2002-12-04 Thread cbbrowne
It isn't, but those working on -advocacy were asked to help come up with a stronger release *announcement* then we've had in the past ... Consider that a failed experiment. PostgreSQL is driven by the development group and, to some extent, by the existing user base. The last thing

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Global Development Group

2002-12-15 Thread cbbrowne
Kevin Brown wrote: Devrim G?ND?Z wrote: I do NOT like hearing about MySQL in this (these) list(s). PostgreSQL is not in the same category with MySQL. MySQL is for *dummies*, not database admins. I do not even call it a database. I have never forgotten my data loss 2,5 years ago; when

Re: [HACKERS] OS/400 support?

2003-01-06 Thread cbbrowne
@ enworbbc)) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/rdbms.html If you can't see the bright side of things, polish the dark side... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command

Re: [HACKERS] psql and readline

2003-01-09 Thread cbbrowne
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:13:14 EST, the world broke into rejoicing as Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Justin Clift wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: snip Let's suppose I am writing a query, and then I do \e to edit the query, and I exit the editor and return to psql. Suppose I decide I

Re: [HACKERS] clock sync

2003-01-09 Thread cbbrowne
on all your machines, thus getting rid of the problem. http://www.ntp.org/ -- If this was helpful, http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=cbbrowne rate me http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/ntp.html Rules of the Evil Overlord #30. All bumbling conjurers, clumsy squires, no-talent bards, and cowardly

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Windows Build System

2003-01-29 Thread cbbrowne
on that. -- If this was helpful, http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=cbbrowne rate me http://cbbrowne.com/info/ Interfaces keep things tidy, but don't accelerate growth: functions do. -- Alan Perlis ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Windows Build System

2003-01-31 Thread cbbrowne
install some part of Cygwin transparently to me). That may have involved not being sufficiently observant, because the company quite clearly documents Cygwin as a dependancy. http://www.mysql.com/downloads/cygwin.html -- output = (aa454 @freenet.carleton.ca) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Windows Build System

2003-01-31 Thread cbbrowne
with the stepchild-Cygwin stuff too, so they won't care too much. What is interesting is that the MySQL folk don't seem to be vehemently against it, as a look at their downloads pages indicate that they depend on Cygwin for the Windows port of their product. -- output = (cbbrowne @ntlug.org) http

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Windows Build System

2003-01-31 Thread cbbrowne
binaries use the Cygwin library. Source code for the version of Cygwin we have used is available on this page. http://www.mysql.com/downloads/cygwin.html -- (reverse (concatenate 'string gro.gultn@ enworbbc)) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/spiritual.html When you have eliminated the impossible

[HACKERS] Case Studio II

2003-02-02 Thread cbbrowne
Has anyone seriously tried out this package? It looks like a cheaper variant on ERWin, with the merit of having some PostgreSQL support. It only runs on WinTel, which is somewhat unfortunate, but I haven't gotten the sort of diagramming I have been looking for out of AutoDoc, so I'd be game to

Re: [HACKERS] new procedural language - PL/R

2003-02-03 Thread cbbrowne
your back... -- If this was helpful, http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=cbbrowne rate me http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/rdbms.html After you've heard two eyewitness accounts of an auto accident it makes you wonder about history. -- Bits and Pieces ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] Yet another open-source benchmark

2003-03-03 Thread cbbrowne
wordings change :-). -- output = reverse(moc.enworbbc@ enworbbc) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linuxxian.html Rules of the Evil Overlord #41. Once my power is secure, I will destroy all those pesky time-travel devices. http://www.eviloverlord.com/ ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] XML ouput for psql

2003-03-03 Thread cbbrowne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't agree with this: XML and XHTML are two different things. No one claimed anything to the contrary. We could certainly upgrade the HTML portion, but I am pretty sure that the XML standard calls for this format: columnnamedata here/columnname The

Re: [HACKERS] XML ouput for psql

2003-03-05 Thread cbbrowne
possibilities.) I'd think that the protocol would involve passing back a row-as-string for each row in the result set. -- output = (cbbrowne @cbbrowne.com) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/xml.html There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and Unix. We don't believe

Re: [HACKERS] make report

2002-04-22 Thread cbbrowne
(concatenate 'string gro.gultn enworbbc)) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/x.html Rules of the Evil Overlord #176. I will add indelible dye to the moat. It won't stop anyone from swimming across, but even dim-witted guards should be able to figure out when someone has entered in this fashion. http

Re: [HACKERS] mV database tools

2002-05-01 Thread cbbrowne
I suppose arrays are PostgreSQL's equivalent of multi-valued data (is it possible to have arrays of arrays?) So it could be argued that PostgreSQL already provides part of what Arthur wants. It seems to me that there would be a whopping lot of value to the exercise of figuring out some way

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL mission statement?

2002-05-01 Thread cbbrowne
think one of the things that has been agreed on that _isn't_ that generic is: We use a Berkeley style license, and prefer it that way. :-) -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne @ntlug.org) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/rdbms.html To err is human, to moo bovine. ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] Musings

2002-05-05 Thread cbbrowne
On Mon, 06 May 2002 00:50:25 +1000, the world broke into rejoicing as Gavin Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, 5 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 05 May 2002 10:01:57 EDT, the world broke into rejoicing as mlw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It is sunday morning and I have been

Re: [HACKERS] How much work is a native Windows application?

2002-05-09 Thread cbbrowne
. Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (reverse (concatenate 'string moc.enworbbc@ enworbbc)) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/spreadsheets.html Rules of the Evil Overlord #166. If the rebels manage to trick me, I will make a note of what they did so that I do not keep falling for the same trick over

Re: [HACKERS] How much work is a native Windows application?

2002-05-09 Thread cbbrowne
@freenet.carleton.ca) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/x.html Why are they called apartments, when they're all stuck together? ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere

Re: [HACKERS] Monitoring backend activities

2002-05-10 Thread cbbrowne
seems quite well supported for PostgreSQL. I'm running it at the moment, and it works quite well... -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne cbbrowne.com) http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/lsf.html Put simply, the antitrust laws in this country are basically a joke, protecting us just enough to not have to re-name

Re: [HACKERS] Native Win32, How about this?

2002-05-11 Thread cbbrowne
://www.cbbrowne.com/info/wp.html Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne ntlug.org) http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/multiplexor.html It's a little known fact that the Dark Ages were caused by the Y1K problem. msg16930/pgp0.pgp Description

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-23 Thread cbbrowne
, that will provide something with enough range to cover history back to ridiculously early times, relieving the limit. But anybody using Unix dates as general dates has leaped into exactly the same sort of trap that caused people to get so paranoid about Y2K. -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne @acm.org

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-23 Thread cbbrowne
about their own non-standard implementations of things; it is certainly far easier to cry They're trying to play Microsoft! than it is to be honest and actually look at the standards. -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne ntlug.org) http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/advocacy.html When confronted

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-24 Thread cbbrowne
on 15 minute intervales, rather than the usual 1h intervals. (The classic Canadian timezone joke is World ends at 9:00; 9:30 in Newfoundland. For more information, see TZ='America/St_Johns') -- (concatenate 'string chris @cbbrowne.com) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/spreadsheets.html Heuristics

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-24 Thread cbbrowne
The last phase could be extending the API to allow multiple simultaneous time zones, detection of bad time zones, etc etc. This would involve API changes or extensions, and breaks compatibility with system-supplied infrastructure. One thing that wasn't clear to me, but could use

Re: [HACKERS] Alternatives to SQL ...

2002-06-08 Thread cbbrowne
it is implemented, but it's worth thinking about, to be sure. -- (reverse (concatenate 'string gro.gultn@ enworbbc)) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/multiplexor.html It is easier to move a problem around (for example, by moving the problem to a different part of the overall network architecture

Re: [HACKERS] A fairly obvious optimization?

2002-06-24 Thread cbbrowne
)) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/spreadsheets.html I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science. -- D. E. Knuth ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list

2002-06-26 Thread cbbrowne
. I understand that there are some serious limitations to the current Postgres JDBC drivers. I have not used them, so I'm reporting rumor, here. I've not run into problems with them, but maybe my use hasn't been extensive enough :-). -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne @acm.org) http://cbbrowne.com

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list

2002-06-27 Thread cbbrowne
... -- (concatenate 'string chris @cbbrowne.com) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/spreadsheets.html HAKMEM ITEM 163 (Sussman): To exchange two variables in LISP without using a third variable: (SETQ X (PROG2 0 Y (SETQ Y X))) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP

Re: [HACKERS] Why is MySQL more chosen over PostgreSQL?

2002-07-29 Thread cbbrowne
, this is d), and I said three likely effects...) e) Inertia. MySQL got more popular way back when; the reasons may no longer apply, but nobody is going to move to PostgreSQL without _compelling_ reason, and you'll have to show something _really compelling_. -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne @acm.org

[HACKERS] Table inheritance versus views

2002-08-02 Thread cbbrowne
On 29 Jul 2002 18:27:40 MDT, the world broke into rejoicing as Stephen Deasey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Curt Sampson wrote: I'm still waiting to find out just what advantage table inheritance offers. I've asked a couple of times here, and nobody has even started to come up with anything.

[HACKERS] Third Manifesto

2002-08-02 Thread cbbrowne
. -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne cbbrowne.com) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/finances.html very few people approach me in real life and insist on proving they are drooling idiots. -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't

Re: [HACKERS] Standard replication interface?

2002-08-15 Thread cbbrowne
be surprised if, in the end, there truly _needed_ to be more than about two approaches. Should the team plan to _have_ a mess? I'd think not. -- (concatenate 'string cbbrowne ntlug.org) http://cbbrowne.com/info/linuxdistributions.html We don't understand the software, and sometimes we don't

Re: [HACKERS] Documentation DTD

2002-08-15 Thread cbbrowne
'string moc.enworbbc enworbbc)) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/emacs.html Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. -- POPULAR MECHANICS magazine forecasting the relentless march of science 1955 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you

[HACKERS] How To Make Things Appear More Dramatic

2002-08-26 Thread cbbrowne
An alarmist style when posting a serious error is a good idea. Hey guys, I found a possible problem... Does not seem to generate the needed level of excitement. DOS attacks means that business stops. I think that should generate a furrowed brow, to say the least. Obviously people have

Re: [HACKERS] HISTORY updated, 7.3 branded

2002-09-04 Thread cbbrowne
'string gro.gultn@ enworbbc)) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/unix.html The most precisely-explained and voluminously-documented user interface rule can and will be shot to pieces with the introduction of a single new priority consideration. -- Michael Peck

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-09-06 Thread cbbrowne
On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 07:37, Curt Sampson wrote: On 5 Sep 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: Suppose you have a table CITIZEN with table-level constraint IS_GOOD which is defined as kills_not_others(CITIZEN). and there is table CIVIL_SERVANT (..) UNDER CITIZEN. Now you have just one table

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-09-06 Thread cbbrowne
Oops! [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Copeland) was seen spray-painting on a wall: --=-eu74lKXry3SVx8eZ/qBD Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 08:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 07:37, Curt Sampson wrote: On 5 Sep 2002,

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, version 7.4/8.0

2003-03-28 Thread cbbrowne
than any of the XML-based schemes. It might be worth trying, too... -- If this was helpful, http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=cbbrowne rate me http://cbbrowne.com/info/soap.html I just got skylights put in my place. The people who live above me are furious. ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] Newbie: problem Connecting to Server

2003-03-30 Thread cbbrowne
; the fact that they are numbering things independently is quite irritating as it makes it more difficult to ascertain what version it actually is. -- output = (cbbrowne @acm.org) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/rdbms.html ...while I know many people who emphatically believe

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, suggestions?

2003-04-02 Thread cbbrowne
... -- If this was helpful, http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=cbbrowne rate me http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/soap.html He who laughs last thinks slowest. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, suggestions?

2003-04-03 Thread cbbrowne
'string cbbrowne @ntlug.org) http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/wp.html The cost of living has just gone up another dollar a quart. -- W.C. Fields ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, suggestions?

2003-04-03 Thread cbbrowne
)) http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/advocacy.html Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to using Windows NT for mission-critical applications. --- What Yoda *meant* to say ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once