[HACKERS] CVS docs referencing externals

2007-08-06 Thread Magnus Hagander
When fixing the fact that the new cvs docs (how to pull with rsync) in HEAD
refer to the wrong hostname for rsync, I (or rather, Dave, during our
discussions) noticed two external references:

http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/cvs.html refers with a link
to the developer wiki, and
http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/rsync.html refers to the
buildfarm instructions.

First of all, neither of these URLs are guaranteed to be stable. Second,
should we really be referring to external URLs for such information?
Wouldn't it be better to include a version of the text directly in our
docs, so people can actually read it if these URLs/contents change?

//Magnus

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Re: [HACKERS] CVS docs referencing externals

2007-08-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Montag, 6. August 2007 09:58 schrieb Magnus Hagander:
 First of all, neither of these URLs are guaranteed to be stable. Second,
 should we really be referring to external URLs for such information?

No.

 Wouldn't it be better to include a version of the text directly in our
 docs, so people can actually read it if these URLs/contents change?

Yes.

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Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

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Re: [HACKERS] CVS docs referencing externals

2007-08-06 Thread Greg Smith

On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:


http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/cvs.html refers with a link
to the developer wiki


This weekend I was already planning to move the developer's wiki PG/MySQL 
document to techdocs.  Depending on how smoothly that goes, I planned to 
see if it was straightforward to move the more complicated CVS page to 
there as well.  Would that give the content a sufficiently stable URL to 
refer to?



http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/rsync.html refers to the
buildfarm instructions.


One loose end in the CVS documentation on the developer's wiki is to make 
sure it has completely assimilated everything from the buildfarm document 
on this topic, so that dependency can drop altogether once I finish that.


Wouldn't it be better to include a version of the text directly in our 
docs, so people can actually read it if these URLs/contents change?


Hostnames change, suggested practices improve.  When you're talking about 
accessing a CVS repository, there's little value in knowing how things 
used to be if they aren't like that anymore.  If the URL is stable enough, 
I'd ask why worry about keeping around old versions?


This particular content is just fluid enough still that I'd hesitate to do 
the more complicated conversion into the standard documentation format, 
which then requires a) periodically duplicating edits/recoverting to keep 
the two versions in sync or b) only keeping the docbook version and 
needing a CVS commit to make any changes.


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Re: [HACKERS] CVS docs referencing externals

2007-08-06 Thread Dave Page
Greg Smith wrote:
 On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:
 
 http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/cvs.html refers with a
 link
 to the developer wiki
 
 This weekend I was already planning to move the developer's wiki
 PG/MySQL document to techdocs.  Depending on how smoothly that goes, I
 planned to see if it was straightforward to move the more complicated
 CVS page to there as well.  Would that give the content a sufficiently
 stable URL to refer to?

I wouldn't bother with the CVS docs - they're not really aimed at end
users, but the very people for whom the wiki is there.

Regards, Dave.

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