Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint
Maybe you are right as technically but this behaver causes a lot of maintance problem on a database that alot of view and functions that depends on a table or a type. I think objects has a property if that object is enable or not. We hope this problem can be resolved at 8.4 release. Best Regards Adnan DURSUN ASRIN Bilisim Ltd. - Original Message - From: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adnan DURSUN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint Adnan DURSUN wrote: Hi, Maybe added more further things to TODO list. Enabled / disabled other objects like view/funtion. imagine a lot of views that referances a table and i wanna drop a column on this table that used by these views. Postgres doesnt allow this. First i must drop these views then drop the column on that table and then recreate these views. Can this be resolved (like oracle does) ? Not easily, because the view are bound to the object id of the tables involved. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint
Bruce Momjian wrote: Adnan DURSUN wrote: Hi, Maybe added more further things to TODO list. Enabled / disabled other objects like view/funtion. imagine a lot of views that referances a table and i wanna drop a column on this table that used by these views. Postgres doesnt allow this. First i must drop these views then drop the column on that table and then recreate these views. Can this be resolved (like oracle does) ? Not easily, because the view are bound to the object id of the tables involved. The trick would be I think to bind them to individual columns, so if view V doesn't mention column C then dropping C has no effect on it. That's a lot more dependencies to track of course. -- Richard Huxton Archonet Ltd ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint
- Original Message - From: Richard Huxton dev@archonet.com To: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Adnan DURSUN [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint Not easily, because the view are bound to the object id of the tables involved. The trick would be I think to bind them to individual columns, so if view V doesn't mention column C then dropping C has no effect on it. That's a lot more dependencies to track of course. Is that not possible that all objects have a column that says whether object state is ok or not. When any session wants to try to execute any DML on object, then the Postgres checks that state column. If object state is not ok then Postgres raises an exception. Best Regards Adnan DURSUN ASRIN Bilisim Ltd. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint
Ok it works, but we have to write a plpgsql function that takes the table_name and the constraint name in parameters It could be useful to have a : ALTER TABLE ... DISABLE CONSTRAINT ... (as oracle does) it could be good to add this to the TODO LIST... Thanks Le mardi 16 janvier 2007 à 22:02 -0500, Bruce Momjian a écrit : Hubert FONGARNAND wrote: Hi, Is there a way to temporary disable a constraint (without drop and recreating it) in postgresql? Sure, try ALTER TABLE ... DISABLE TRIGGER for the constraint trigger name. ___ Ce message et les �ventuels documents joints peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles. Au cas o� il ne vous serait pas destin�, nous vous remercions de bien vouloir le supprimer et en aviser imm�diatement l'exp�diteur. Toute utilisation de ce message non conforme � sa destination, toute diffusion ou publication, totale ou partielle et quel qu'en soit le moyen est formellement interdite. Les communications sur internet n'�tant pas s�curis�es, l'int�grit� de ce message n'est pas assur�e et la soci�t� �mettrice ne peut �tre tenue pour responsable de son contenu.
Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint
Hi, Maybe added more further things to TODO list. Enabled / disabled other objects like view/funtion. imagine a lot of views that referances a table and i wanna drop a column on this table that used by these views. Postgres doesnt allow this. First i must drop these views then drop the column on that table and then recreate these views. Can this be resolved (like oracle does) ? Best regards Adnan DURSUN ASRIN Bilişim Ltd. - Original Message - From: Hubert FONGARNAND To: Bruce Momjian Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint Ok it works, but we have to write a plpgsql function that takes the table_name and the constraint name in parameters It could be useful to have a : ALTER TABLE ... DISABLE CONSTRAINT ... (as oracle does) it could be good to add this to the TODO LIST... Thanks Le mardi 16 janvier 2007 à 22:02 -0500, Bruce Momjian a écrit : Hubert FONGARNAND wrote: Hi, Is there a way to temporary disable a constraint (without drop and recreating it) in postgresql? Sure, try ALTER TABLE ... DISABLE TRIGGER for the constraint trigger name. ___ Ce message et les 鶥ntuels documents joints peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles. Au cas o?ne vous serait pas destin鬠nous vous remercions de bien vouloir le supprimer et en aviser imm餩atement l'exp餩teur. Toute utilisation de ce message non conforme ࠳a destination, toute diffusion ou publication, totale ou partielle et quel qu'en soit le moyen est formellement interdite. Les communications sur internet n'鴡nt pas s飵ris饳, l'int駲it頤e ce message n'est pas assur饠et la soci鴩 魥ttrice ne peut 괲e tenue pour responsable de son contenu.
Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint
Hubert FONGARNAND wrote: Ok it works, but we have to write a plpgsql function that takes the table_name and the constraint name in parameters It could be useful to have a : ALTER TABLE ... DISABLE CONSTRAINT ... (as oracle does) it could be good to add this to the TODO LIST... Well, we currently only allow disabling foreign key constraints (those that have triggers). There is no way to disable a UNIQUE or NOT NULL constraint, for example, so I don't see how we can do DISABLE CONSTRAINT cleanly. --- Thanks Le mardi 16 janvier 2007 ? 22:02 -0500, Bruce Momjian a ?crit : Hubert FONGARNAND wrote: Hi, Is there a way to temporary disable a constraint (without drop and recreating it) in postgresql? Sure, try ALTER TABLE ... DISABLE TRIGGER for the constraint trigger name. ___ Ce message et les ?entuels documents joints peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles. Au cas o?il ne vous serait pas destin? nous vous remercions de bien vouloir le supprimer et en aviser imm?iatement l'exp?iteur. Toute utilisation de ce message non conforme ?sa destination, toute diffusion ou publication, totale ou partielle et quel qu'en soit le moyen est formellement interdite. Les communications sur internet n'?ant pas s?uris?s, l'int?rit?de ce message n'est pas assur? et la soci???ettrice ne peut ?re tenue pour responsable de son contenu. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint
Adnan DURSUN wrote: Hi, Maybe added more further things to TODO list. Enabled / disabled other objects like view/funtion. imagine a lot of views that referances a table and i wanna drop a column on this table that used by these views. Postgres doesnt allow this. First i must drop these views then drop the column on that table and then recreate these views. Can this be resolved (like oracle does) ? Not easily, because the view are bound to the object id of the tables involved. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
[HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint
Hi, Is there a way to temporary disable a constraint (without drop and recreating it) in postgresql? Thanks ___ Ce message et les éventuels documents joints peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles. Au cas où il ne vous serait pas destiné, nous vous remercions de bien vouloir le supprimer et en aviser immédiatement l'expéditeur. Toute utilisation de ce message non conforme à sa destination, toute diffusion ou publication, totale ou partielle et quel qu'en soit le moyen est formellement interdite. Les communications sur internet n'étant pas sécurisées, l'intégrité de ce message n'est pas assurée et la société émettrice ne peut être tenue pour responsable de son contenu.
Re: [HACKERS] Temparary disable constraint
Hubert FONGARNAND wrote: Hi, Is there a way to temporary disable a constraint (without drop and recreating it) in postgresql? Sure, try ALTER TABLE ... DISABLE TRIGGER for the constraint trigger name. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] EnterpriseDBhttp://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
