Re: [HACKERS] Why restore_command is called for existing files in pg_xlog?

2017-06-12 Thread Jeff Janes
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:25 AM, Alex Kliukin  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Alexander Kukushkin wrote:
>
> Hello hackers,
> There is one strange and awful thing I don't understand about
> restore_command: it is always being called for every single WAL segment
> postgres wants to apply (even if such segment already exists in pg_xlog)
> until replica start streaming from the master.
>
>
> The real problem this question is related to is being unable to bring a
> former master, demoted after a crash, online, since the WAL segments
> required to get it to the consistent state were not archived while it was
> still a master, and local segments in pg_xlog are ignored when a
> restore_command is defined. The other replicas wouldn't be good candidates
> for promotion as well, as they were way behind the master (because the last
> N WAL segments were not archived and streaming replication had a few
> seconds delay).
>

I don't really understand the problem.  If the other replicas are not
candidates for promotion, than why was the master ever "demoted" in the
first place?  It should just go through normal crash recovery, not PITR
recovery, and therefore will read the files from pg_xlog just fine.

If you already promoted one of the replicas and accepted data changes into
it, and now are thinking that was not a good idea, then there is no off the
shelf automatic way to merge together the two systems.  You have do a
manual inspection of the differences.  To do that, you would start by
starting up (a copy of) the crashed master, using normal crash recovery,
not PITR.



>
> Is this a correct list for such questions, or would it be more appropriate
> to ask elsewhere (i.e. pgsql-bugs?)
>

Probably more appropriate for pgsql-general or pgsql-admin.

Cheers,

Jeff


Re: [HACKERS] Why restore_command is called for existing files in pg_xlog?

2017-06-12 Thread Alex Kliukin
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Alexander Kukushkin wrote:
> Hello hackers,
> There is one strange and awful thing I don't understand about
> restore_command: it is always being called for every single WAL
> segment postgres wants to apply (even if such segment already exists
> in pg_xlog) until replica start streaming from the master.
The real problem this question is related to is being unable to bring a
former master, demoted after a crash, online, since the WAL segments
required to get it to the consistent state were not archived while it
was still a master, and local segments in pg_xlog are ignored when a
restore_command is defined. The other replicas wouldn't be good
candidates for promotion as well, as they were way behind the master
(because the last N WAL segments were not archived and streaming
replication had a few seconds delay).
Is this a correct list for such questions, or would it be more
appropriate to ask elsewhere (i.e. pgsql-bugs?)
> 
> If there is no restore_command in the recovery.conf - it perfectly
> works, i.e. postgres replays existing wal segments and at some point
> connects to the master and start streaming from it.> 
> When recovery_conf is there, starting of a replica could become a real
> problem, especially if restore_command is slow.> 
> Is it possible to change this behavior somehow? First look into
> pg_xlog and only if file is missing or "corrupted" call
> restore_command.> 
> 
> Regards,
> ---
> Alexander Kukushkin

Sincerely,
Alex



[HACKERS] Why restore_command is called for existing files in pg_xlog?

2017-06-02 Thread Alexander Kukushkin
Hello hackers,

There is one strange and awful thing I don't understand about
restore_command: it is always being called for every single WAL segment
postgres wants to apply (even if such segment already exists in pg_xlog)
until replica start streaming from the master.

If there is no restore_command in the recovery.conf - it perfectly works,
i.e. postgres replays existing wal segments and at some point connects to
the master and start streaming from it.

When recovery_conf is there, starting of a replica could become a real
problem, especially if restore_command is slow.

Is it possible to change this behavior somehow? First look into pg_xlog and
only if file is missing or "corrupted" call restore_command.


Regards,
---
Alexander Kukushkin