Re: [HACKERS] tzdata2012d

2012-08-06 Thread Tom Lane
Magnus Hagander  writes:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Tom Lane  wrote:
>> In practice, people who need the latest TZ data shouldn't be relying
>> on our copy anyway.  I think pretty much all distros build with

> That's a "dangerous" thing to say. All the Windows users out there
> have no choice. I'm not sure about Mac, but AFAIK certainly the ones
> downloading the binaries will get "our" set of TZ files. That
> represents a very non-trival portion of our users.

Well, I'm certainly not suggesting that we shouldn't update those files
whenever we make a release.  I'm just pointing out that in many cases,
the OS will provide a copy that's updated on a faster cycle than that.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] tzdata2012d

2012-08-06 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Tom Lane  wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera  writes:
>> Excerpts from David Fetter's message of lun jul 30 17:27:46 -0400 2012:
>>> Can we slide this into the upcoming point release?  When would that
>>> be?
>
>> Usually, Tom installs the latest timezone data just before each point
>> release.
>
> It's part of the release checklist.
>
> In practice, people who need the latest TZ data shouldn't be relying
> on our copy anyway.  I think pretty much all distros build with

That's a "dangerous" thing to say. All the Windows users out there
have no choice. I'm not sure about Mac, but AFAIK certainly the ones
downloading the binaries will get "our" set of TZ files. That
represents a very non-trival portion of our users.

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Re: [HACKERS] tzdata2012d

2012-07-30 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera  writes:
> Excerpts from David Fetter's message of lun jul 30 17:27:46 -0400 2012:
>> Can we slide this into the upcoming point release?  When would that
>> be?

> Usually, Tom installs the latest timezone data just before each point
> release.

It's part of the release checklist.

In practice, people who need the latest TZ data shouldn't be relying
on our copy anyway.  I think pretty much all distros build with
--with-system-tzdata so that the distros' own updates of tzdata get
picked up automatically by Postgres.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] tzdata2012d

2012-07-30 Thread Alvaro Herrera

Excerpts from David Fetter's message of lun jul 30 17:27:46 -0400 2012:
> Folks,
> 
> I just noticed that there's yet another change to time zones:
> 
> http://www.iana.org/time-zones
> 
> Can we slide this into the upcoming point release?  When would that
> be?

Usually, Tom installs the latest timezone data just before each point
release.  Updating it each time IANA releases a new one would just be
unnecessary churn, I think.

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[HACKERS] tzdata2012d

2012-07-30 Thread David Fetter
Folks,

I just noticed that there's yet another change to time zones:

http://www.iana.org/time-zones

Can we slide this into the upcoming point release?  When would that
be?

Cheers,
David.
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