Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
On 15 Oct 2002 at 18:19, Bruce Momjian wrote: We are showing up in places I never expected: .org registry, tons of books, conventions, everywhere. It is just a wave that keeps getting bigger and bigger. I am starting to imagine what Linus felt seeing Linux take off; you just sit around and wonder how it is all happening, and of course, it is happening because you offer a unique value to users, and their sharing with others just makes it continue to grow. Sigh.. I wish enough people could understand difference between cost and value and more importantly apply the understanding while making a judgement.. Bye Shridhar -- I'm a soldier, not a diplomat. I can only tell the truth. -- Kirk, Errand of Mercy, stardate 3198.9 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 16:14, scott.marlowe wrote: It's on Slashdot, but there's only one post there that mentions the use of Postgresql. On 14 Oct 2002, Robert Treat wrote: Yep, that's them. This is a big win from a PostgreSQL advocacy position, especially since oracle pr made an official statement against the use of PostgreSQL. Has this info hit any of the linux oriented news sites (linux-today, slashdot, etc...) If not someone from the PostgreSQL marketing dept. (wink wink) should come up with a press release. Anybody have a link where I can find the /. or the Oracle statement? -- Karl ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
Karl DeBisschop wrote: On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 16:14, scott.marlowe wrote: It's on Slashdot, but there's only one post there that mentions the use of Postgresql. On 14 Oct 2002, Robert Treat wrote: Yep, that's them. This is a big win from a PostgreSQL advocacy position, especially since oracle pr made an official statement against the use of PostgreSQL. Has this info hit any of the linux oriented news sites (linux-today, slashdot, etc...) If not someone from the PostgreSQL marketing dept. (wink wink) should come up with a press release. Anybody have a link where I can find the /. or the Oracle statement? Here's the Oracle statement: http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/gartner-report/msg0.html Hope that helps, Mike Mascari [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
The slashdot article: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/14/1720241mode=nestedtid=95 The isoc page: http://www.isoc.org/dotorg/ the isoc proposal: http://www.isoc.org/dotorg/10-1.shtml the Oracle post: http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/gartner-report/msg0.html Good day. On 16 Oct 2002, Karl DeBisschop wrote: On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 16:14, scott.marlowe wrote: It's on Slashdot, but there's only one post there that mentions the use of Postgresql. On 14 Oct 2002, Robert Treat wrote: Yep, that's them. This is a big win from a PostgreSQL advocacy position, especially since oracle pr made an official statement against the use of PostgreSQL. Has this info hit any of the linux oriented news sites (linux-today, slashdot, etc...) If not someone from the PostgreSQL marketing dept. (wink wink) should come up with a press release. Anybody have a link where I can find the /. or the Oracle statement? -- Karl ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:42:37PM -0700, David De Graff wrote: Is this the same group that recently asked for input on their proposal, which specified Postgres as the registry database? Hi everyone, Yes, this is us. (Sorry I've been inactive the last week. I was on vacation.) What follows is a strictly personal set of remarks. I don't speak for Afilias, Liberty RMS, PIR, or ISOC. I'm just some guy. They don't even like me. ;-) I want to take the opportunity to thank everyone in the PostgreSQL community for the help they've offered, and for the fantastic software. When I ask for help, the support I get is just tremendous, both for marketing efforts and for general Postgres operation questions I have. This is a remarkable victory for PostgreSQL, by the way. As you can see if you check out the public forums and the various, publicly posted remarks by various bidders (everything I know about in the bidding is posted on the ICANN site), people were gunning for PostgreSQL. There were many suggestions that PostgreSQL wasn't up to the job. The Gartner Group, despite their natural tendency to be suspicious of a thing nobody else is using, concluded that PostgreSQL was not too big a risk. That may sound like damning with faint praise, when we all know that PostgreSQL can indeed handle this sort of task. But even such a hesitant endorsement from someone like Gartner means that PostgreSQL is now regarded by the usual commercial suspects as a real system. I can't believe that's a bad thing. I should note that we have had tremendous help from Geoff Davidson and the rest of the crew at PostgreSQL, Inc., and that Justic Clift has been totally indefatiguable in finding clever ways of promoting PostgreSQL. Thanks, guys. I am very hopeful that this provides Liberty and Afilias with an opportunity to make additional contributions to PostgreSQL. Naturally, though, I don't know anything. I'll keep lobbying. I'm very proud to be associated with this development in PostgreSQL's history. It's only possible because of the PostgreSQL community: the tireless efforts of the contributors, and the astounding support that participants on lists like these give one another. Thank you. A -- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Liberty RMS Toronto, Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x110 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:42:37PM -0700, David De Graff wrote: Is this the same group that recently asked for input on their proposal, which specified Postgres as the registry database? Hi everyone, Yes, this is us. (Sorry I've been inactive the last week. I was on vacation.) You host .org now. No more vacations! ;-) What follows is a strictly personal set of remarks. I don't speak for Afilias, Liberty RMS, PIR, or ISOC. I'm just some guy. They don't even like me. ;-) I want to take the opportunity to thank everyone in the PostgreSQL community for the help they've offered, and for the fantastic software. When I ask for help, the support I get is just tremendous, both for marketing efforts and for general Postgres operation questions I have. It is a huge win. I remember when Yahoo started using MySQL, and Slashdot uses it; well, this is the same, but bigger in many ways because it is so pervasive. You may not go to Yahoo, and most people (non-techies) don't go to slashdot, but everyone uses .org names, so it is the kind of universal calling card we need to take PostgreSQL to the next level. The past six months has seen huge improvements in PostgreSQL adoption; much more than I expected. The popularity of the software continues to amaze me, and its market growth seems unstoppable at this point. We are showing up in places I never expected: .org registry, tons of books, conventions, everywhere. It is just a wave that keeps getting bigger and bigger. I am starting to imagine what Linus felt seeing Linux take off; you just sit around and wonder how it is all happening, and of course, it is happening because you offer a unique value to users, and their sharing with others just makes it continue to grow. In one word: Amazing! -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
En Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: We are showing up in places I never expected: .org registry, tons of books, conventions, everywhere. It is just a wave that keeps getting bigger and bigger. I am starting to imagine what Linus felt seeing Linux take off; you just sit around and wonder how it is all happening, and of course, it is happening because you offer a unique value to users, and their sharing with others just makes it continue to grow. In one word: Amazing! This is not without good reason. PostgreSQL has shown repeatedly to be an excellent product, able to compete with most commercial products. I've just been asked to give a little administration course for people in an government organization, where Oracle has been disregarded for giving little gain over what PostgreSQL gives. I am pleased to have done such a good decision to stick with PostgreSQL a couple years ago. I will just continue with my crusade here, where everything appears to be only Oracle and just a little MySQL. Of course none of this would be possible without the excellent quality of the work people here does. If there is something to be amazed at is the people, their commitment and the quality of their work. One can only say a big thanks!. -- Alvaro Herrera (alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl) Thou shalt study thy libraries and strive not to reinvent them without cause, that thy code may be short and readable and thy days pleasant and productive. (7th Commandment for C Programmers) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
Yep, that's them. This is a big win from a PostgreSQL advocacy position, especially since oracle pr made an official statement against the use of PostgreSQL. Has this info hit any of the linux oriented news sites (linux-today, slashdot, etc...) If not someone from the PostgreSQL marketing dept. (wink wink) should come up with a press release. Robert Treat - Original Message - From: David De Graff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry? The Internet Society (ISOC) won the bid to replace Verisign as the .org registry. They're going to subcontract to Afilias, who has been running the .info registry. See: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-14oct02.htm http://www.afilias.info/about_afilias/dotorg/index_html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23669-2002Oct14.html Is this the same group that recently asked for input on their proposal, which specified Postgres as the registry database? (For some reason I can't find the recent thread on their proposal on the hackers, general or admin lists.) Dave De Graff ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
It's on Slashdot, but there's only one post there that mentions the use of Postgresql. On 14 Oct 2002, Robert Treat wrote: Yep, that's them. This is a big win from a PostgreSQL advocacy position, especially since oracle pr made an official statement against the use of PostgreSQL. Has this info hit any of the linux oriented news sites (linux-today, slashdot, etc...) If not someone from the PostgreSQL marketing dept. (wink wink) should come up with a press release. Robert Treat - Original Message - From: David De Graff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry? The Internet Society (ISOC) won the bid to replace Verisign as the .org registry. They're going to subcontract to Afilias, who has been running the .info registry. See: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-14oct02.htm http://www.afilias.info/about_afilias/dotorg/index_html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23669-2002Oct14.html Is this the same group that recently asked for input on their proposal, which specified Postgres as the registry database? (For some reason I can't find the recent thread on their proposal on the hackers, general or admin lists.) Dave De Graff ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
On Monday 14 October 2002 04:08 pm, Robert Treat wrote: Yep, that's them. This is a big win from a PostgreSQL advocacy position, especially since oracle pr made an official statement against the use of PostgreSQL. Has this info hit any of the linux oriented news sites (linux-today, slashdot, etc...) If not someone from the PostgreSQL marketing dept. (wink wink) should come up with a press release. I have submitted a story to LinuxToday. We'll see how that goes. Anyone want to take on Slashdot? :-) -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
David De Graff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Internet Society (ISOC) won the bid to replace Verisign as the .org registry. They're going to subcontract to Afilias, who has been running the .info registry. Cool. See: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-14oct02.htm http://www.afilias.info/about_afilias/dotorg/index_html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23669-2002Oct14.html Is this the same group that recently asked for input on their proposal, which specified Postgres as the registry database? Yes, same bunch. Andrew Sullivan, whose name you may have seen on the lists, is the DBA for the .info registry; I suppose he will be running the .org registry now too ... regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
Yep, that's them. This is a big win from a PostgreSQL advocacy position, especially since oracle pr made an official statement against the use of PostgreSQL. Has this info hit any of the linux oriented news sites (linux-today, slashdot, etc...) If not someone from the PostgreSQL marketing dept. (wink wink) should come up with a press release. Robert Treat Don't worry about Oracle, they don't need real customers. Their database market consists of a healthy balance of real and fictitious people. See http://slashdot.org/articles/02/04/17/179252.shtml?tid=98 Regards, Jeff Davis ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Postgres-based system to run .org registry?
Robert Treat wrote: Yep, that's them. This is a big win from a PostgreSQL advocacy position, especially since oracle pr made an official statement against the use of PostgreSQL. Has this info hit any of the linux oriented news sites (linux-today, slashdot, etc...) If not someone from the PostgreSQL marketing dept. (wink wink) should come up with a press release. Yes, this is a huge win, and something for our advocacy site, and for the main PostgreSQL page too. Vince? -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
