Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Log crashed backend's query v2

2011-10-05 Thread Marti Raudsepp
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 02:36, gabrielle gor...@gmail.com wrote:
 This review was compiled from a PDXPUG group review (Dan Colish, Mark
 Wong, Brent Dombrowski, and Gabrielle Roth).

Whaat, you marked the patch as Returned with Feedback based on this review?

The only obvious change I need to make in response to your feedback is
the function name fix in a comment. Most points are incorrect: there's
no regression test in this patch and no requirement of plpythonu. I
didn't introduce any new messages with the text unknown. The
behavior of ascii_safe_strncpy is deliberate and was implemented from
feedback on the first patch version.

What's left is the indentation alignment in the if() statement. No way
is that a a reason to delay the patch to the next CommitFest!

Regards,
Marti

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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Log crashed backend's query v2

2011-10-04 Thread gabrielle
This review was compiled from a PDXPUG group review (Dan Colish, Mark
Wong, Brent Dombrowski, and Gabrielle Roth).

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We all agree this is a really useful feature.  The patch applies
cleanly to the current git master with git apply, it's in context
diff, and does what it's supposed to do on Ubuntu, OSX, and gentoo.

We found a few problems with it, and we'd like to see the patch
resubmitted with the following changes:
Tests:
- Regression test requires plpythonu;  it needs to work without that.

Docs:
- The doc comment 'pgstat_get_backend_current_activity' doesn't match
the function name 'pgstat_get_crashed_backend_activity'.

Project coding guidelines:
- There are some formatting problems, such as all newlines at the same
indent level need to line up.  (The author mentioned not [being]
happy with the indenting depth, so I think this is not a surprise.)
- Wayward tabs, line 2725 in pgstat.c specifically
- Unknown is used a lot (see
http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/error-style-guide.html#AEN94099)

We had some questions about ascii_safe_strncpy:
- It doesn't convert just unknown encodings, it converts all
encodings.  Is that intentional?
- Is there an existing function that already does this?

Looking forward to the next revision!

gabrielle (on behalf of PDXPUG)

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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Log crashed backend's query v2

2011-10-04 Thread Marti Raudsepp
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 02:36, gabrielle gor...@gmail.com wrote:
 This review was compiled from a PDXPUG group review (Dan Colish, Mark
 Wong, Brent Dombrowski, and Gabrielle Roth).

Hi, thanks for the review!

 - Regression test requires plpythonu;  it needs to work without that.

The patch contains no regression tests and -- as far as I can tell --
cannot be reliably tested in the current pg_regress framework. The
plpythonu line is just an example to demonstrate the patch output.

 - The doc comment 'pgstat_get_backend_current_activity' doesn't match
 the function name 'pgstat_get_crashed_backend_activity'.

Oops, copy-paste error. :)

 - There are some formatting problems, such as all newlines at the same
 indent level need to line up.  (The author mentioned not [being]
 happy with the indenting depth, so I think this is not a surprise.)

That was deliberate. As far as I've seen, in Postgres source, complex
expressions are usually lined up to the starting parentheses, unless
the expression is too long, in which case it's aligned to the
78-character right margin. I decided to use this because splitting the
expression on yet one more line wouldn't improve code readability.

Or have I misunderstood the coding style?

 - Unknown is used a lot (see
 http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/error-style-guide.html#AEN94099)

The string (unknown) in postmaster.c was there before me, I didn't
change that.

The other instance of unknown in the comment for ascii_safe_strncpy
I believe expresses the function quite well -- the function doesn't
know and doesn't care what the input encoding is.

 We had some questions about ascii_safe_strncpy:
 - It doesn't convert just unknown encodings, it converts all
 encodings.  Is that intentional?

Technically we always know the right encoding -- the query is in the
backend's database encoding. The point here is being simple and
foolproof -- not introducing unnecessary amounts of code into the
postmaster. Since ASCII characters are valid in any encoding, we only
keep ASCII characters and throw away the rest.

This was added in response to concerns that ereport might attempt to
convert the string to another encoding and fail -- because the command
string may be corrupt or because postmaster's encoding doesn't match
the backend's encoding. And while this concern doesn't seem to apply
with current code, it's still prudent to add it to pre-empt future
changes and to protect the log file from potentially corrupt strings.

See: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-09/msg00418.php

 - Is there an existing function that already does this?

The bytea-text conversion (byteaout function) does something similar
when bytea_output='escape', but it doesn't preserve newline/tab
characters and it doesn't currently exist as an independent function.
It also uses the outdated octal representation.

Regards,
Marti

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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Log crashed backend's query v2

2011-09-27 Thread Florian Pflug
On Sep28, 2011, at 00:19 , Marti Raudsepp wrote:
 (I'm still not sure what adt means)

I always assumed it stood for abstract data type. Most of the files in this 
directory seem to correspond to an SQL-level data type like intX, varchar, 
tsquery, ..., and contain the I/O functions for that type, plus some supporting 
operations and functions.

Over time, it seems that this directory was also used for SQL-level functions 
not directly related to a single type, like windowfuncs.c and pgstatfuncs.c. 
The fact that ri_triggers.c lives there also might be a relict from times where 
you'd create FK constraint with CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER and specified one of 
the functions from ri_triggers.c as the procedure to execute.

best regards,
Florian Pflug


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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Log crashed backend's query v2

2011-09-27 Thread Tom Lane
Florian Pflug f...@phlo.org writes:
 On Sep28, 2011, at 00:19 , Marti Raudsepp wrote:
 (I'm still not sure what adt means)

 I always assumed it stood for abstract data type.

Yeah, that's what I think too.  Over time it's been used to hold most
code that is a SQL-callable function, many of which are not directly
connected to any SQL datatype.  Not sure if it's worth trying to clean
that up.

Another annoying thing is that adt should probably have been directly
under src/backend/ --- dropping it under utils/ seems just weird for
a category that is going to hold a ton of code.

(I had once had some hope that git would allow us to move code around
more easily, but my experiments with back-patching after code movement
have convinced me that it doesn't work any better for that than CVS.
So I'm not in favor of massive code rearrangements just to make the
source tree structure cleaner.)

regards, tom lane

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