Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-20 Thread Greg Stark
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: If the Debian guidelines think that only SO major version need be considered, they're wrong, at least for the way we've been treating that. The Debian approach is that you should have precisely one installed copy of a library

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-19 Thread Craig Ringer
On 08/19/2014 05:02 AM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: I am finally able to get back around to this and I am still calling: Hokey. I just loaded up a fresh precise (I assume trusty will act the same way) and installed postgresql. I installed it, without the PDGD repository and everything worked

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-19 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 08/19/2014 08:34 AM, Craig Ringer wrote: I iterate, the current apt.postgresql.org is not doing things correctly. It breaks things and it shouldn't. FWIW, this is inconsistent with what yum.postgresql.org does - it takes the POLA approach of packing the libpq from the major release

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-18 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 08/12/2014 10:26 AM, Steve Crawford wrote: On 08/07/2014 04:30 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Hello, I know this has been brought up before: http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20140724080902.ga28...@msg.df7cb.de For reference, libpq and packaging issues discussed here as well:

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-12 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Joshua D. Drake 2014-08-11 53e83e9c.6030...@commandprompt.com The issue that I specifically ran into is that by using apt.postgresql.org in its default configuration, I can't add certain extensions (without jumping through hoops). Simple: Assume a running 9.2.9 from apt.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-12 Thread Steve Crawford
On 08/07/2014 04:30 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Hello, I know this has been brought up before: http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20140724080902.ga28...@msg.df7cb.de For reference, libpq and packaging issues discussed here as well:

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-11 Thread Stephen Frost
JD, * Joshua D. Drake (j...@commandprompt.com) wrote: The issue that I specifically ran into is that by using apt.postgresql.org in its default configuration, I can't add certain extensions (without jumping through hoops). Simple: Assume a running 9.2.9 from apt.postgresql.org apt-get

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-10 Thread Joshua D. Drake
The SO major version should be sufficient for applications to operate normally. If that isn't the case then I agree that we need to review the changes we are making to see if the SO should be bumped. Note that Debian's viewpoint on this is more along the lines of why build against an old

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-08 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 08/07/2014 10:12 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: If you want the specific version, update your deb line. Don't complain because you used the Debian repo that follows the Debian guidelines and didn't like what you got- that's not going to change. May I have a link? Because I would argue that the

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-08 Thread Stephen Frost
* Joshua D. Drake (j...@commandprompt.com) wrote: On 08/07/2014 10:12 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: If you want the specific version, update your deb line. Don't complain because you used the Debian repo that follows the Debian guidelines and didn't like what you got- that's not going to change.

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-08 Thread Tom Lane
Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net writes: * Joshua D. Drake (j...@commandprompt.com) wrote: On 08/07/2014 10:12 PM, Stephen Frost wrote: If you want the specific version, update your deb line. Don't complain because you used the Debian repo that follows the Debian guidelines and didn't like

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-08 Thread Stephen Frost
* Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote: We only bump the SO version when we make a low-level ABI break; but even without doing that we could potentially have changed library behavior in ways that could negatively impact some applications. We should definitely be paying attention for such

Re: [HACKERS] Hokey wrong versions of libpq in apt.postgresql.org

2014-08-07 Thread Stephen Frost
JD, * Joshua D. Drake (j...@commandprompt.com) wrote: But this is just plain wrong. I don't care that the FAQ (on the wiki) says we are doing it wrong for good reasons. When I (or anyone else) pulls postgresql-$version-dev, I want the libpq for my version. I do not want 9.3. No, it isn't