Re: [HACKERS] ISO/IEC 9075-2:2016 for postgres community

2017-01-19 Thread Albe Laurenz
Wolfgang Wilhelm wrote:
> are you looking for something like this:
> jtc1sc32.org/doc/N2301-2350/32N2311T-text_for_ballot-CD_9075-2.pdf ?

That looks like it is from 2013...

Yours,
Laurenz Albe

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Re: [HACKERS] ISO/IEC 9075-2:2016 for postgres community

2017-01-19 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 1/19/17 10:03 AM, Wolfgang Wilhelm wrote:
> are you looking for something like this:
> jtc1sc32.org/doc/N2301-2350/32N2311T-text_for_ballot-CD_9075-2.pdf ?

That's not very recent.


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Re: [HACKERS] ISO/IEC 9075-2:2016 for postgres community

2017-01-19 Thread Wolfgang Wilhelm
Hi,
are you looking for something like this: 
jtc1sc32.org/doc/N2301-2350/32N2311T-text_for_ballot-CD_9075-2.pdf ?
Kind Regards,
Wolfgang


Oleg Bartunov  schrieb am 16:39 Dienstag, 17.Januar 
2017:
 

 

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Alvaro Herrera  
wrote:

Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I just bought ISO/IEC 9075-2:2016
> http://www.iso.org/iso/home/ store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_ 
> detail.htm?csnumber=63556
> to satisfy my interest on json support in SQL.  I am not ready to discuss
> here implementation details, but there is one problem with the status of
> this document, which is copyright protected.
>
> "All rights reserved. Unless otherwise specified, no part of this
> publication may be reproduced or utilized otherwise in any form or by any
> means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, or posting on the
> internet or an intranet, without prior written permission. Permission can
> be requested from either ISO at the address below or ISO’s member body in
> the country of the requester."
>
> My question is should we ask ISO for permission to use my copy in our
> community or  should we buy at least one another copy (for reviewer) ?

With previous versions, we have relied on draft versions
"indistinguishable from latest" posted by third parties.  I couldn't
find such a version for sql2106 in an (admittedly very quick) search.


I found several mentions about such a draft, but failed to find any.  I think 
we can wait until we have a prototype or somebody share a link.
 
I doubt ISO would give the community permission to use your copy, but it
wouldn't hurt to ask them. 



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Re: [HACKERS] ISO/IEC 9075-2:2016 for postgres community

2017-01-17 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Alvaro Herrera 
wrote:

> Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I just bought ISO/IEC 9075-2:2016
> > http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_
> detail.htm?csnumber=63556
> > to satisfy my interest on json support in SQL.  I am not ready to discuss
> > here implementation details, but there is one problem with the status of
> > this document, which is copyright protected.
> >
> > "All rights reserved. Unless otherwise specified, no part of this
> > publication may be reproduced or utilized otherwise in any form or by any
> > means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, or posting on
> the
> > internet or an intranet, without prior written permission. Permission can
> > be requested from either ISO at the address below or ISO’s member body in
> > the country of the requester."
> >
> > My question is should we ask ISO for permission to use my copy in our
> > community or  should we buy at least one another copy (for reviewer) ?
>
> With previous versions, we have relied on draft versions
> "indistinguishable from latest" posted by third parties.  I couldn't
> find such a version for sql2106 in an (admittedly very quick) search.
>

I found several mentions about such a draft, but failed to find any.  I
think we can wait until we have a prototype or somebody share a link.


> I doubt ISO would give the community permission to use your copy, but it
> wouldn't hurt to ask them.
>

> --
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> PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
>


Re: [HACKERS] ISO/IEC 9075-2:2016 for postgres community

2017-01-17 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I just bought ISO/IEC 9075-2:2016
> http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=63556
> to satisfy my interest on json support in SQL.  I am not ready to discuss
> here implementation details, but there is one problem with the status of
> this document, which is copyright protected.
> 
> "All rights reserved. Unless otherwise specified, no part of this
> publication may be reproduced or utilized otherwise in any form or by any
> means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, or posting on the
> internet or an intranet, without prior written permission. Permission can
> be requested from either ISO at the address below or ISO’s member body in
> the country of the requester."
> 
> My question is should we ask ISO for permission to use my copy in our
> community or  should we buy at least one another copy (for reviewer) ?

With previous versions, we have relied on draft versions
"indistinguishable from latest" posted by third parties.  I couldn't
find such a version for sql2106 in an (admittedly very quick) search.
I doubt ISO would give the community permission to use your copy, but it
wouldn't hurt to ask them.

-- 
Álvaro Herrerahttps://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services


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