Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-29 Thread Dave Page



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 From: CoL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 24 September 2002 13:23
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 Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Web site
 
 
 Hi,
 
 So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This 
 could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is 
 close enough 
 and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main 
 web server) 
 or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.
 I think it would be stupid, I am, who wants to decide where 
 to go. If I 
 feel that .co.uk is better than others I'll chose that, and 
 bookmark if 
 I want.
 (random??? brbrbrbrbr) :)

I think it's safe to say we will *not* be doing this...

Regards, Dave.

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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-28 Thread CoL

Hi,

So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This
could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough
and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or
it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.
I think it would be stupid, I am, who wants to decide where to go. If I 
feel that .co.uk is better than others I'll chose that, and bookmark if 
I want.
(random??? brbrbrbrbr) :)

C.


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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-27 Thread Sean Chittenden

   could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough
   and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or
   it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.
  
  Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ...
 
 What method will be employed instead?

Anyone thought about using GeoIP and writing a script that'd dump the
database into something that could be postgresql usable?  Just a
thought.  -sc

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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On 24 Sep 2002, Neil Conway wrote:

 Gavin Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
  user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional.

 I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the
 justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites
 (AFAIK) have ads on them?

Actually, that is part of the redesign as well ...



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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-24 Thread Ross J. Reedstrom

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
 On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
  user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has
  been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.
 
 Your point?
 
  So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could
  be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has
  the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could
  be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.
 
 Been there, done that, didn't work.  Too much of a job to keep track of
 that many IP blocks too.
 

I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the
first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets
or ignores the cookie.

Ross

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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-24 Thread Vince Vielhaber

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
  On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:
 
   Hi all,
  
   It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
   user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has
   been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.
 
  Your point?
 
   So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could
   be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has
   the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could
   be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.
 
  Been there, done that, didn't work.  Too much of a job to keep track of
  that many IP blocks too.


 I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the
 first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets
 or ignores the cookie.

Or choose the mirror that works best for you and bookmark it.

Vince.
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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-24 Thread Ross J. Reedstrom

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 11:26:55AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
 On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:
 
  I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the
  first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets
  or ignores the cookie.
 
 Or choose the mirror that works best for you and bookmark it.

Of course, that's what _I_ do, but the dicussion was how to make the
frontpage 'user friendly' and 'professional'. Lots of global corps. do
the 'pick your geographical region' thing, but mainly for sales reasons,
so it must be professional, right?

Ross

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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-24 Thread Neil Conway

Gavin Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
 user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional.

I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the
justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites
(AFAIK) have ads on them?

Cheers,

Neil

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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-24 Thread Bruce Momjian

Neil Conway wrote:
 Gavin Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
  user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional.
 
 I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the
 justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites
 (AFAIK) have ads on them?

I wondered that myself.

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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-24 Thread Michael Paesold

Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
  On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:
 
   Hi all,
  
   It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking
the
   user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this
has
   been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.
 
  Your point?
 
   So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This
could
   be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and
has
   the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it
could
   be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.
 
  Been there, done that, didn't work.  Too much of a job to keep track of
  that many IP blocks too.


 I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the
 first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets
 or ignores the cookie.

If I had a vote, I would vote +1 for this option. I think it's easy to
implement and shouldn't have negative effects on performance.

Regards,
Michael Paesold


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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-24 Thread Vince Vielhaber

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:

 Hi all,

 It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
 user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has
 been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.

Your point?

 So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could
 be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has
 the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could
 be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

Been there, done that, didn't work.  Too much of a job to keep track of
that many IP blocks too.

Vince.
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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:

 Hi all,

 It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
 user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has
 been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.

Already being worked on ...

 So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This
 could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough
 and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or
 it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ...



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Re: [HACKERS] Web site

2002-09-23 Thread Gavin Sherry

  could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough
  and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or
  it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.
 
 Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ...

What method will be employed instead?

Gavin


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