Re: [HACKERS] Web site
-Original Message- From: CoL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 September 2002 13:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Web site Hi, So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. I think it would be stupid, I am, who wants to decide where to go. If I feel that .co.uk is better than others I'll chose that, and bookmark if I want. (random??? brbrbrbrbr) :) I think it's safe to say we will *not* be doing this... Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
Hi, So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. I think it would be stupid, I am, who wants to decide where to go. If I feel that .co.uk is better than others I'll chose that, and bookmark if I want. (random??? brbrbrbrbr) :) C. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ... What method will be employed instead? Anyone thought about using GeoIP and writing a script that'd dump the database into something that could be postgresql usable? Just a thought. -sc -- Sean Chittenden ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
On 24 Sep 2002, Neil Conway wrote: Gavin Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites (AFAIK) have ads on them? Actually, that is part of the redesign as well ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: Hi all, It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. Your point? So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of that many IP blocks too. I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets or ignores the cookie. Ross ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: Hi all, It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. Your point? So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of that many IP blocks too. I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets or ignores the cookie. Or choose the mirror that works best for you and bookmark it. Vince. -- == Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSHemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking http://www.camping-usa.com http://www.cloudninegifts.com http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com == ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 11:26:55AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets or ignores the cookie. Or choose the mirror that works best for you and bookmark it. Of course, that's what _I_ do, but the dicussion was how to make the frontpage 'user friendly' and 'professional'. Lots of global corps. do the 'pick your geographical region' thing, but mainly for sales reasons, so it must be professional, right? Ross ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
Gavin Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites (AFAIK) have ads on them? Cheers, Neil -- Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] || PGP Key ID: DB3C29FC ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
Neil Conway wrote: Gavin Sherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites (AFAIK) have ads on them? I wondered that myself. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: Hi all, It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. Your point? So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of that many IP blocks too. I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets or ignores the cookie. If I had a vote, I would vote +1 for this option. I think it's easy to implement and shouldn't have negative effects on performance. Regards, Michael Paesold ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: Hi all, It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. Your point? So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of that many IP blocks too. Vince. -- == Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSHemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking http://www.camping-usa.com http://www.cloudninegifts.com http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com == ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote: Hi all, It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway. Already being worked on ... So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] Web site
could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror. Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ... What method will be employed instead? Gavin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])