Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-21 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 08:08:11PM +0200, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: Doesn't our inclusion of md5() pretty much blow that argument away? (Just asking). I don't think so because md5 is just a one way hash function. There is no method to decrypt anything :).

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-21 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 03:37:52PM +0300, Marko Kreen wrote: On 7/14/06, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see a strong need for moving pgcrypto into core, and there's at least one argument against it: if someone needs a crypto-free version of postgres for use someplace with benighted

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-21 Thread Joshua D. Drake
So I would like either some mention of the more useful/stable modules in core docs or a way for contrib modules to become 'official' add-on modules (like PL-s are). This is actually an issue that goes way beyond pgcrypto. I think the manual should formally mention both /contrib and

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-20 Thread Jan Wieck
On 7/14/2006 12:01 PM, Tom Lane wrote: tsearch2 is functionality that definitely should be in core eventually, but even Oleg still says it's not done. Aside from the documentation issue, it's not clear that we've got a stable API for it. Would moving it in its current state into core help it

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-18 Thread Marko Kreen
On 7/14/06, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see a strong need for moving pgcrypto into core, and there's at least one argument against it: if someone needs a crypto-free version of postgres for use someplace with benighted laws, they would be screwed. Image of hypothetical evil

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-15 Thread Oleg Bartunov
We estimate 1 month for both us to complete these issues/todos and 1 month extra to write documentation, so we certainly are not ready for 8.2, most probable 8.3. We're looking for sponsorship of our work. Oleg On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Teodor Sigaev wrote: tsearch2 is functionality that

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There has been action to clean up and remove some contrib modules, and this is good. I would like to suggest that we should try to move one or two the other way, namely right into the core proper, on the ground that they have widespread applicability

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There has been action to clean up and remove some contrib modules, and this is good. I would like to suggest that we should try to move one or two the other way, namely right into the core proper, on the ground that they have

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There has been action to clean up and remove some contrib modules, and this is good. I would like to suggest that we should try to move one or two the other way, namely right into the core proper, on the ground that they have widespread

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread Tom Lane
Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: I don't see a strong need for moving pgcrypto into core, and there's at least one argument against it: if someone needs a crypto-free version of postgres for use someplace with benighted laws, they would be screwed. Doesn't our

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread John DeSoi
On Jul 14, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Doesn't our inclusion of md5() pretty much blow that argument away? (Just asking). I don't think so because md5 is just a one way hash function. There is no method to decrypt anything :). John DeSoi, Ph.D. http://pgedit.com/ Power

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Andrew Dunstan wrote: I don't see a strong need for moving pgcrypto into core, and there's at least one argument against it: if someone needs a crypto-free version of postgres for use someplace with benighted laws, they would be screwed. Could that be handled with a configure option? In

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Doesn't our inclusion of md5() pretty much blow that argument away? (Just asking). I don't think so because md5 is just a one way hash function. There is no method to decrypt anything :). Actually, I've had to install pgcrypto on more than one

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: Doesn't our inclusion of md5() pretty much blow that argument away? (Just asking). I don't think so because md5 is just a one way hash function. There is no method to decrypt anything :). Actually, I've had to install pgcrypto on more than one occasion for

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Quite apart from anything else, it's important that we do get better docco on these modules. I'm willing to help with DocBook options. What do you have in mind? Well, if we could make provision for sucking in a chapter per contrib module if it exists that

Re: [HACKERS] contrib promotion?

2006-07-14 Thread Teodor Sigaev
tsearch2 is functionality that definitely should be in core eventually, but even Oleg still says it's not done. Aside from the documentation issue, it's not clear that we've got a stable API for it. Issues/TODO to move tsearch2 into core (by fast look) * memory management. Dictionaries and