Re: [HACKERS] deductive databases in postgreSQL

2009-01-23 Thread Carlos Gonzalez-Cadenas
Yes it's an option, but you cannot rely on the typical consulting company to
do that. Do you know any specialized consulting boutique or individual
developer that could do that?

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:16 PM, decibel deci...@decibel.org wrote:

 On Jan 22, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Euler Taveira de Oliveira wrote:

 No one that I know of. Well, it is a long road. The addition of a data
 type
 xml is recent (8.3). We lack a set of features like indexing, a new data
 structure (?), XQuery, XPath improvement and, so on [1]. Don't expect much
 of
 these TODO items completed before the next two releases (unless you want
 to
 take a stab).



 You could also possibly pay a consulting company to implement it, but even
 that isn't as easy as it may sound. :)
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Re: [HACKERS] deductive databases in postgreSQL

2009-01-23 Thread Sam Mason
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:10:55AM +0100, Carlos Gonzalez-Cadenas wrote:
 Yes it's an option, but you cannot rely on the typical consulting company to
 do that. Do you know any specialized consulting boutique or individual
 developer that could do that?

Sending an email to pgsql-j...@postgresql.org couldn't hurt.

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Re: [HACKERS] deductive databases in postgreSQL

2009-01-23 Thread decibel

At the risk of excluding people...

I know that 2ndQuadrant and Command Prompt will develop features for  
hire. I'm not sure if EnterpriseDB will or not.


And yes, post is pgsql-jobs.

On Jan 23, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Carlos Gonzalez-Cadenas wrote:

Yes it's an option, but you cannot rely on the typical consulting  
company to do that. Do you know any specialized consulting boutique  
or individual developer that could do that?


Carlos Gonzalez-Cadenas
CEO, ExperienceOn - New generation search
http://www.experienceon.com

Mobile: +34 652 911 201
Skype: carlosgonzalezcadenas
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/carlosgonzalezcadenas



On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:16 PM, decibel deci...@decibel.org wrote:
On Jan 22, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Euler Taveira de Oliveira wrote:
No one that I know of. Well, it is a long road. The addition of a  
data type
xml is recent (8.3). We lack a set of features like indexing, a new  
data
structure (?), XQuery, XPath improvement and, so on [1]. Don't  
expect much of
these TODO items completed before the next two releases (unless you  
want to

take a stab).


You could also possibly pay a consulting company to implement it,  
but even that isn't as easy as it may sound. :)

--
Decibel!, aka Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect  deci...@decibel.org
Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828





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Re: [HACKERS] deductive databases in postgreSQL

2009-01-22 Thread Euler Taveira de Oliveira
Carlos Gonzalez-Cadenas escreveu:
 We're looking for a deductive database for our application. Oracle, in
 the 11g version, has extended its RDBMS with deductive capabilities,
 supporting a subset of OWL-DL[1]. They are able to load an ontology,
 perform the inferences, dump the inferred info in the database and after
 that answer queries with the asserted plus the inferred info.
 
 We would like to have similar functionalities in PostgreSQL. Do you know
 if there's someone working on that or if there are plans to support it
 soon?. If not, what do you think is the best and most efficient way of
 implementing it?
 
No one that I know of. Well, it is a long road. The addition of a data type
xml is recent (8.3). We lack a set of features like indexing, a new data
structure (?), XQuery, XPath improvement and, so on [1]. Don't expect much of
these TODO items completed before the next two releases (unless you want to
take a stab).
After all of these basic infrastructure, we need a language (SPARQL?) and an
inference engine -- this is a big task AFAICT. At this point, don't know if
hackers will agree in adding such a big feature in core that is not SQL
standard (aka SQL/XML) but maybe it could be an external module.


[1] http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/XML_Todo


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Re: [HACKERS] deductive databases in postgreSQL

2009-01-22 Thread decibel

On Jan 22, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Euler Taveira de Oliveira wrote:
No one that I know of. Well, it is a long road. The addition of a  
data type
xml is recent (8.3). We lack a set of features like indexing, a new  
data
structure (?), XQuery, XPath improvement and, so on [1]. Don't  
expect much of
these TODO items completed before the next two releases (unless you  
want to

take a stab).



You could also possibly pay a consulting company to implement it, but  
even that isn't as easy as it may sound. :)

--
Decibel!, aka Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect  deci...@decibel.org
Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828



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