Re: [HACKERS] issue about the streaming replication

2017-03-12 Thread Jinhua Luo
Thanks for your information. Now I know the pg_rewind tool.

But why PG does not recover the diverge automatically?

There exists two options at least,  analogy to what "git merge" does:

a) the old master find out and rewind itself to the common base of the
new master in the WAL history before applying new WAL segments from
new master.

b) maybe with logical replication, two masters could merge their data.
if conflict exists, uses the new version. That means data committed on
the old master could survive the crash, which may be important for
some business.

The pg_rewind helps to do option a. But how about option b?


2017-03-12 19:20 GMT+08:00 Michael Paquier :
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Jinhua Luo  wrote:
>> I think this diverge scenario is common, because it's likely the
>> master would crash due to some hardware issue (e.g. power off) which
>> would cause some committed transaction has not yet synced to slave,
>> while the slave would be promoted to new master and accepts new
>> transactions, then how to recover the old master? Moreover, how to
>> recover the data on old master which is missing on new master?
>
> pg_rewind (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/app-pgrewind.html)
> has been designed with exactly this scenario in mind, aka recycling a
> past master as a slave to a promoted node. Have you looked at it? What
> you are trying to do is much likely going to create corruptions on
> your systems, so I am not surprised that you see inconsistency
> failures, what you are seeing is pretty much the tip of hte iceberg.
> --
> Michael


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Re: [HACKERS] issue about the streaming replication

2017-03-12 Thread Michael Paquier
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Jinhua Luo  wrote:
> I think this diverge scenario is common, because it's likely the
> master would crash due to some hardware issue (e.g. power off) which
> would cause some committed transaction has not yet synced to slave,
> while the slave would be promoted to new master and accepts new
> transactions, then how to recover the old master? Moreover, how to
> recover the data on old master which is missing on new master?

pg_rewind (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/app-pgrewind.html)
has been designed with exactly this scenario in mind, aka recycling a
past master as a slave to a promoted node. Have you looked at it? What
you are trying to do is much likely going to create corruptions on
your systems, so I am not surprised that you see inconsistency
failures, what you are seeing is pretty much the tip of hte iceberg.
-- 
Michael


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