Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
On sön, 2011-09-04 at 12:06 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Maybe we need a few members that test a large number of locales. (Anyone feel like donating resources? I'm currently providing resources for seven, which I think is sufficient :-) ) If we're just testing different configuration combinations (as opposed to different operating systems and architectures), we could also consider running this off some cloud provider. That way, we could add dozens of members for $20 a month or so. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 09:39:39AM -0400, Joe Abbate wrote: On 09/04/2011 08:57 AM, Andrew Dunstan wrote: In what locale does 'sc' sort before 's4'? (And I'd humbly suggest that whatever locale it is is possibly broken.) EBCDIC? If you have any EBCDIC machines for the buildfarm, that'd be great :) Cheers, David. -- David Fetter da...@fetter.org http://fetter.org/ Phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Yahoo!: dfetter Skype: davidfetter XMPP: david.fet...@gmail.com iCal: webcal://www.tripit.com/feed/ical/people/david74/tripit.ics Remember to vote! Consider donating to Postgres: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
On 09/04/2011 08:23 AM, Pavel Stehule wrote: Hello there is one regress test, that failed on my f14 [pavel@nemesis postgresql]$ uname -a Linux nemesis 2.6.35.14-95.fc14.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Aug 16 21:12:22 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux regression.diffs 3676/3676 100% *** /home/pavel/src/postgresql/src/test/regress/expected/foreign_data.out 2011-09-04 14:17:23.463589991 +0200 --- /home/pavel/src/postgresql/src/test/regress/results/foreign_data.out 2011-09-04 14:20:06.649144130 +0200 *** *** 781,791 SELECT * FROM information_schema.foreign_servers ORDER BY 1, 2; foreign_server_catalog | foreign_server_name | foreign_data_wrapper_catalog | foreign_data_wrapper_name | foreign_server_type | foreign_server_version | authorization_identifier +-+--+---+-++-- regression | s4 | regression | foo | oracle | | foreign_data_user regression | s5 | regression | foo | | 15.0 | regress_test_role regression | s6 | regression | foo | | 16.0 | regress_test_indirect regression | s8 | regression | postgresql| | | foreign_data_user - regression | sc | regression | dummy | | | foreign_data_user regression | t1 | regression | foo | | | regress_test_indirect regression | t2 | regression | foo | | | regress_test_role (7 rows) --- 781,791 SELECT * FROM information_schema.foreign_servers ORDER BY 1, 2; foreign_server_catalog | foreign_server_name | foreign_data_wrapper_catalog | foreign_data_wrapper_name | foreign_server_type | foreign_server_version | authorization_identifier +-+--+---+-++-- + regression | sc | regression | dummy | | | foreign_data_user regression | s4 | regression | foo | oracle | | foreign_data_user regression | s5 | regression | foo | | 15.0 | regress_test_role regression | s6 | regression | foo | | 16.0 | regress_test_indirect regression | s8 | regression | postgresql| | | foreign_data_user regression | t1 | regression | foo | | | regress_test_indirect regression | t2 | regression | foo | | | regress_test_role (7 rows) tested on HEAD In what locale does 'sc' sort before 's4'? (And I'd humbly suggest that whatever locale it is is possibly broken.) cheers andrew -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
On 09/04/2011 08:57 AM, Andrew Dunstan wrote: In what locale does 'sc' sort before 's4'? (And I'd humbly suggest that whatever locale it is is possibly broken.) EBCDIC? Joe -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
On sön, 2011-09-04 at 08:57 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: In what locale does 'sc' sort before 's4'? In Czech. (And I'd humbly suggest that whatever locale it is is possibly broken.) There were some discussions about this in the past; it's apparently based on a national standard and completely valid. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
On 09/04/2011 10:23 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: On sön, 2011-09-04 at 08:57 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: In what locale does 'sc' sort before 's4'? In Czech. (And I'd humbly suggest that whatever locale it is is possibly broken.) There were some discussions about this in the past; it's apparently based on a national standard and completely valid. Well, I don't think we are obliged to cater for locales that break ASCII ordering. (There's a reason the buildfarm client runs its first set of checks in C locale). And to answer Pavel's question in email to me (maybe he meant to hit reply-all instead of reply): This order is based on czech locale, but regress tests should be independent on locale? No, it's not really possible. Something has to determine sort order. cheers andrew -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
On sön, 2011-09-04 at 10:47 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Well, I don't think we are obliged to cater for locales that break ASCII ordering. We do cater for that. See commit 8cd375526790c5be8ae24c77f13ac446adda88b6 Author: Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net Date: Mon Mar 9 15:04:21 2009 + Tweak the regression test case so that the ordering of numbers vs. letters doesn't matter. This fixes failures in the Czech locale. commit 71936fc5eb6330ace4205163b3d2f731a7db5a41 Author: Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net Date: Thu Feb 12 15:11:44 2009 + The Czech (cs_CZ) and Slovak (sk_SK) locales sort numbers after letters, instead of vice versa. Update the regression test expectations to support that. In the plpgsql test, adjust the test data so that this isn't an issue. In the char and varchar tests, add new expected files. and more generally commit 8987c115f1e7256b17c1cd04a8471810185d1941 Author: Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net Date: Mon Jan 19 13:38:47 2009 + Alter regression test cases that rely on the sort order of aa. Some locales (da_DK, fo_FO, kl_GL, nb_NO, nn_NO in glibc) sort aa after z. commit 2b01cbe34042ed9fdea38a0c2fad5ab81df032c9 Author: Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net Date: Mon Jan 19 12:02:29 2009 + Alter the regression test cases that rely on the sort order of ch between cg and ci. This eliminates a test failure on the following glibc locales: br_FR, cs_CZ, cy_GB, es_EC, es_US, hsb_DE, ig_NG, ik_CA, sk_SK. commit a5d67a0a050a9d32c351183992c3f08631735c37 Author: Peter Eisentraut pete...@gmx.net Date: Sun Jan 11 09:41:45 2009 + Make tests pass with or without locale. And to answer Pavel's question in email to me (maybe he meant to hit reply-all instead of reply): This order is based on czech locale, but regress tests should be independent on locale? No, it's not really possible. Something has to determine sort order. Well, if the going gets tough, we could stick a COLLATE C here and there. But as you can see above, this case should work. If something broke it, let's fix it. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes: On 09/04/2011 10:23 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: On sön, 2011-09-04 at 08:57 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote: In what locale does 'sc' sort before 's4'? In Czech. Well, I don't think we are obliged to cater for locales that break ASCII ordering. We've changed regression test cases to avoid this type of problem in the past. I see no reason not to do it here. The object sc could just as easily be named something else. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes: Well, I don't think we are obliged to cater for locales that break ASCII ordering. The logical conclusion of that position is that there's no need to make the regression tests pass in any other locale than C. Which is not the project policy, and we (including you, with your buildfarm hat on) have expended plenty of sweat in support of that. I think the real question that needs to be asked here is why there's not a buildfarm member running the tests in Czech locale. And maybe some of the other ones that have been problematic in the past. We should not have to wait for random reports to find out about this. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
On 09/04/2011 11:31 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstanand...@dunslane.net writes: Well, I don't think we are obliged to cater for locales that break ASCII ordering. The logical conclusion of that position is that there's no need to make the regression tests pass in any other locale than C. Which is not the project policy, and we (including you, with your buildfarm hat on) have expended plenty of sweat in support of that. I thought that was more about things like letters with diacritical marks, Turkish i and so on. But I stand corrected. I think the real question that needs to be asked here is why there's not a buildfarm member running the tests in Czech locale. And maybe some of the other ones that have been problematic in the past. We should not have to wait for random reports to find out about this. Maybe we need a few members that test a large number of locales. (Anyone feel like donating resources? I'm currently providing resources for seven, which I think is sufficient :-) ) Or a few volunteers from among existing members that can test lots of locales. (My f14 box has 245 utf8 locales, 181 non-utf8 locales and 308 that don't specify an encoding. Or I could make the client get a list of available locales/encodings and then test a number of them each run cyclically. cheers andrew -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
Re: [HACKERS] regress test failed
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes: On 09/04/2011 11:31 AM, Tom Lane wrote: I think the real question that needs to be asked here is why there's not a buildfarm member running the tests in Czech locale. And maybe some of the other ones that have been problematic in the past. We should not have to wait for random reports to find out about this. Maybe we need a few members that test a large number of locales. (Anyone feel like donating resources? I'm currently providing resources for seven, which I think is sufficient :-) ) Or a few volunteers from among existing members that can test lots of locales. (My f14 box has 245 utf8 locales, 181 non-utf8 locales and 308 that don't specify an encoding. I'm not ready to buy into the position that we should make the regression tests pass on every last locale definition that anyone can find. That's probably impossible, and certainly more trouble than it'd be worth. I suspect there's only a dozen or two that need to get tested. But I would suggest that this could be the policy: don't complain about regression tests failing in a locale unless you're prepared to support a buildfarm member that tests that locale on a routine basis. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
