Re: [HACKERS] tzdata2012d

2012-08-06 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
 Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes:
 Excerpts from David Fetter's message of lun jul 30 17:27:46 -0400 2012:
 Can we slide this into the upcoming point release?  When would that
 be?

 Usually, Tom installs the latest timezone data just before each point
 release.

 It's part of the release checklist.

 In practice, people who need the latest TZ data shouldn't be relying
 on our copy anyway.  I think pretty much all distros build with

That's a dangerous thing to say. All the Windows users out there
have no choice. I'm not sure about Mac, but AFAIK certainly the ones
downloading the binaries will get our set of TZ files. That
represents a very non-trival portion of our users.

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Re: [HACKERS] tzdata2012d

2012-08-06 Thread Tom Lane
Magnus Hagander mag...@hagander.net writes:
 On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
 In practice, people who need the latest TZ data shouldn't be relying
 on our copy anyway.  I think pretty much all distros build with

 That's a dangerous thing to say. All the Windows users out there
 have no choice. I'm not sure about Mac, but AFAIK certainly the ones
 downloading the binaries will get our set of TZ files. That
 represents a very non-trival portion of our users.

Well, I'm certainly not suggesting that we shouldn't update those files
whenever we make a release.  I'm just pointing out that in many cases,
the OS will provide a copy that's updated on a faster cycle than that.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] tzdata2012d

2012-07-30 Thread Alvaro Herrera

Excerpts from David Fetter's message of lun jul 30 17:27:46 -0400 2012:
 Folks,
 
 I just noticed that there's yet another change to time zones:
 
 http://www.iana.org/time-zones
 
 Can we slide this into the upcoming point release?  When would that
 be?

Usually, Tom installs the latest timezone data just before each point
release.  Updating it each time IANA releases a new one would just be
unnecessary churn, I think.

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Re: [HACKERS] tzdata2012d

2012-07-30 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes:
 Excerpts from David Fetter's message of lun jul 30 17:27:46 -0400 2012:
 Can we slide this into the upcoming point release?  When would that
 be?

 Usually, Tom installs the latest timezone data just before each point
 release.

It's part of the release checklist.

In practice, people who need the latest TZ data shouldn't be relying
on our copy anyway.  I think pretty much all distros build with
--with-system-tzdata so that the distros' own updates of tzdata get
picked up automatically by Postgres.

regards, tom lane

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