Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2008-04-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
FYI, the patch author and survey requestor has withdrawn the patch with the following comment: I think we can reject this patch. I don't process yet output from survey on general, but it seems that more users prefer pg_ prefix, but idea of pgc command seems to be better. I think it is good

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2008-03-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Where are we on this? Tom thinks we don't want this. TODO has: * Prefix command-line utilities like createuser with 'pg_' http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-06/msg00025.php I think we need to make a decision.

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where are we on this? Tom thinks we don't want this. TODO has: * Prefix command-line utilities like createuser with 'pg_' http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-06/msg00025.php I think we need to make a decision. Well, I

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2008-03-24 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Tom Lane napsal(a): Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where are we on this? Tom thinks we don't want this. TODO has: * Prefix command-line utilities like createuser with 'pg_' http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-06/msg00025.php I think we need to make

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2008-03-24 Thread David Fetter
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 09:19:42PM +0100, Zdenek Kotala wrote: Tom Lane napsal(a): Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where are we on this? Tom thinks we don't want this. TODO has: * Prefix command-line utilities like createuser with 'pg_'

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2008-03-24 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:12:19 -0700 David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I have to had two reason for this patch. First is my personal, because I don't like these names since 1999. And second is that Solaris architects do not like these

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Lane
Which part of this is the wrong list wasn't clear to you guys? regards, tom lane - Sent via pgsql-patches mailing list (pgsql-patches@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-patches

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2008-03-24 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:30:46 -0400 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which part of this is the wrong list wasn't clear to you guys? I actually didn't even notice. Sorry Tom. Joshua D. Drake - -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997:

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-09 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Tom Lane wrote: Zdenek Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is group of people who has different opinion. The main reasons for this patch are 1) names could collide with system tools That argument is purely theoretical, though, since no one has complained to us of an *actual* collision.

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-09 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Tom Lane wrote: Zdenek Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Page wrote: This is almost as bad as Magnus agreeing with JD (!), but I agree with Peter :-). After years of typing the current names, changing them does seem somewhat annoying. Worse yet, pg_* is just awkward to type. But these

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-09 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Jaime Casanova wrote: what makes me wonder why doesn't exist pg_ctl init I suggested it in previous discussion on hackers. See http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-06/msg00142.php Zdenek ---(end of broadcast)---

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-07 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Magnus Hagander wrote: Zdenek Kotala wrote: I attach complete patch which renames following binaries createdb createlang createuser dropdb droplang dropuser clusterdb vacuumdb reindexdb to pg_createdb pg_createlang pg_createuser pg_dropdb pg_droplang pg_dropuser pg_clusterdb pg_vacuumdb

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-07 Thread Magnus Hagander
Zdenek Kotala wrote: I'm also not sure we really should install copies on win32. Given how seldom these commands are actually used on windows (most people really use pgadmin to do these things). Postmaster does same thing. Actually, the win32 distribution only ships postgres.exe, not

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-07 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Dave Page wrote: On Fri, July 6, 2007 8:51 am, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007 17:04 schrieb Zdenek Kotala: I attach complete patch which renames following binaries createdb createlang createuser dropdb droplang dropuser clusterdb vacuumdb reindexdb I just want to say I

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-07 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 5:53 , Dave Page wrote: On Fri, July 6, 2007 8:51 am, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007 17:04 schrieb Zdenek Kotala: I attach complete patch which renames following binaries createdb createlang createuser

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-07 Thread Tom Lane
Zdenek Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Page wrote: This is almost as bad as Magnus agreeing with JD (!), but I agree with Peter :-). After years of typing the current names, changing them does seem somewhat annoying. Worse yet, pg_* is just awkward to type. But these utilities are

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-07 Thread Tom Lane
Zdenek Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is group of people who has different opinion. The main reasons for this patch are 1) names could collide with system tools That argument is purely theoretical, though, since no one has complained to us of an *actual* collision. With these

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-07 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Jul 7, 2007, at 13:50 , Tom Lane wrote: Zdenek Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Page wrote: This is almost as bad as Magnus agreeing with JD (!), but I agree with Peter :-). After years of typing the current names, changing them does seem somewhat annoying. Worse yet, pg_* is

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-07 Thread Jaime Casanova
On 7/7/07, Michael Glaesemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious as to know how often these are used at all. I think I may have used createuser once and used to use createlang, but I can't recall ever using the others. i used to use createlang before the pg_pltemplate exists (because i hate

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-07 Thread Dave Page
Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jul 7, 2007, at 13:50 , Tom Lane wrote: Zdenek Kotala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Page wrote: This is almost as bad as Magnus agreeing with JD (!), but I agree with Peter :-). After years of typing the current names, changing them does seem somewhat

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007 17:04 schrieb Zdenek Kotala: I attach complete patch which renames following binaries createdb createlang createuser dropdb droplang dropuser clusterdb vacuumdb reindexdb I just want to say I dislike this idea. -- Peter Eisentraut

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007 06:59 schrieb Magnus Hagander: I'm also not sure we really should install copies on win32. Given how seldom these commands are actually used on windows But some people do use them, and they should have the same experience as on any other platform. I don't think

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-06 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, July 6, 2007 8:51 am, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007 17:04 schrieb Zdenek Kotala: I attach complete patch which renames following binaries createdb createlang createuser dropdb droplang dropuser clusterdb vacuumdb reindexdb I just want to say I dislike this idea.

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-06 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Jul 6, 2007, at 5:53 , Dave Page wrote: On Fri, July 6, 2007 8:51 am, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007 17:04 schrieb Zdenek Kotala: I attach complete patch which renames following binaries createdb createlang createuser dropdb droplang dropuser clusterdb vacuumdb

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 5:53 , Dave Page wrote: On Fri, July 6, 2007 8:51 am, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007 17:04 schrieb Zdenek Kotala: I attach complete patch which renames following binaries createdb createlang createuser dropdb droplang dropuser

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-06 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jul 6, 2007, at 5:53 , Dave Page wrote: On Fri, July 6, 2007 8:51 am, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007 17:04 schrieb Zdenek Kotala: I attach complete patch which renames following binaries createdb createlang createuser dropdb droplang dropuser

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-06 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Jul 6, 2007, at 11:28 , Joshua D. Drake wrote: Why should they be name spaced? I see zero reason why that should be the case... apache_httpd? gnu_ls? Personally, I think that the Apache daemon *should* be named apached or something along those lines. Compare with postgres, pg_ctl,

Re: [PATCHES] script binaries renaming

2007-07-05 Thread Magnus Hagander
Zdenek Kotala wrote: I attach complete patch which renames following binaries createdb createlang createuser dropdb droplang dropuser clusterdb vacuumdb reindexdb to pg_createdb pg_createlang pg_createuser pg_dropdb pg_droplang pg_dropuser pg_clusterdb pg_vacuumdb pg_reindexdb