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In linux, it's possible to tell the OOM killer never to consider
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Perhaps this should
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Perhaps this should be in the PostgreSQL docs somewhere?
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On a side note, what version of PG are you using? If it was in a
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UUID is designed to be a universal solution. But universal solutions
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(compare the id of the newest user to the id a week ago). This is
information
which is in some cases critical.
So you're accidentally storing critical information in magic values
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We chose UUID as PK because there is still some information in an
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You can see if a user has registered before someone else (user1.id
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If you don't handle this, that table will continue to grow in size on
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Please let me know, I'd be very happy if you could contribute...
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bgwriter_delay = 1ms # 10-1ms between rounds
bgwriter_lru_maxpages = 1000 # 0-1000 max buffers written/round
Have you watched closely under load to ensure that you're not seeing
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You know, with all the performance problems people have been bringing up
with regard to SANs, I'm putting SAN in the same category as RAID-5 ...
Not really fair, because unlike RAID5 it's at least
with 32GB of ram and Equalogic iSCSI SAN attached.
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filesystem did you
format the RAM disk with?
Why are you doing this? If you have enough RAM to store the table, why
not just allocate it to shared buffers?
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in his SELECTs that are modifying table data, or triggers that do it ON
SELECT or something similar.
Of course, without any details, this is purely speculation.
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a value this high will
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to reproduce the behaviour
on systems where they can investigate it. Once you have that, use the
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, but shouldn't something like this
allow us to get a (fast) accurate count ?
SELECT COUNT(*) from table WHERE indexed_field IS NULL
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SELECT COUNT(*) from table WHERE indexed_field IS NOT NULL
For certain, qualified definitions of fast, sure.
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of this table so you can easily watch to see if your config tweaks
are getting the job done or not. And remember that _some_ bloat is
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in a production system.
Note that if you need a fast count of the number of rows in a large
table, there are known workarounds to get it. Such as creating triggers
that update a count column, or using explain to get a quick estimate of
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not isn't likely to factor in.
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you're going to have to be more specific. I don't know what
technology uses WAR files, and based on the tepid response, it doesn't
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What program are you using that uses the WAR files?
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What do you mean heard of? Which raid system do you know of that reads
all drives for RAID 1?
I'm fairly sure that FreeBSD's GEOM does. Of course, it couldn't be doing
consistency checking at that point
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I'm fairly sure that FreeBSD's GEOM does. Of course, it couldn't be doing
consistency checking at that point.
According
RAID 10.
I snipped the rest of your message because none of it matters. Never use
RAID 5 on a database system. Ever. There is absolutely NO reason to
every put yourself through that much suffering. If you hate yourself
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all drives for RAID 1?
I'm fairly sure that FreeBSD's GEOM does. Of course, it couldn't be doing
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In order to recalculate the parity, it has to have data from all disks.
Thus,
if you have 4 disks, it has to read 2 (the unknown data blocks included in
the parity calculation) then write 2 (the new data block and the new
added to functions so administrators
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Um ... why did you snip my second paragraph where I said exactly this?
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That is like saying anyone that has rights to call a web service
should be able to see the source code
found problematic queries.
Another piece of broadly useful advice is to install the pgbuffercache
addon and monitor shared_buffer usage to see if you've got enough. Also
useful is monitoring the various statistics in the pg_stat_database
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EXPLAIN ANALYZE output for the two queries.
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a sequential scan of
this table. It's silly. I would rather the query failed than have to wait
for a sequential scan of the entire table.
Yes, that would be really useful, if you have huge tables in your
database.
Is there something wrong with:
set enable_seqscan = off
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it would be nice to do something with selects so we can recover a rowset
on huge tables using a criteria
this situation are probably 90% or better.
Other things that could cause this problem are poor schema design, and
unreasonable expectations.
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is not that the distro is bad because it hasn't moved from
8.1 - 8.2. The comment is that it's bad because it hasn't updated a
major branch with the latest bug fixes. i.e. it hasn't moved from 8.1.4
to 8.1.5.
If this is indeed the case, I agree that such a distro isn't worth using.
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topic_id int,
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Now add a trigger to your original table that updates materialized_topics
any time the first table is altered. Thus you always have fast lookups.
Of course, this may be non-optimal if that table sees a lot of updates.
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testing very low-level aspects of
performance.
Actually, what it's really showing is parallelism, and I've always
expected PostgreSQL to come out on top in that arena.
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Vacuuming once a day is usually only enough if you have very minimal
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We vacuum only a few of our tables nightly, this one is the last one
because it takes longer to run. I'll probably re-index it soon, but I
would appreciate any
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CPU 0.02s/0.01u sec elapsed 0.02 sec.
INFO: free space map: 167 relations, 1412 pages stored; 3440 total pages
needed
DETAIL: Allocated FSM size: 1000 relations + 2 pages = 178 kB shared
memory.
VACUUM
This doesn't look problematic, so I doubt your vacuum policy is to blame.
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the table, thus PG has awful statistics and
doesn't know how to pick a good plan.
2) You have so few rows in the table that a seq scan is actually
faster than an index scan, which is why PG uses it instead.
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large delete operations as well.
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But the weird thing is running the query in the new server the are many disk
access and cpu usage. And with other applications in the same server are a
lot of disks access.
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Not network, no. But the results of your explains seem to show that the
query is executing much faster on the new system than the old, so the
problem still becomes, what is happening after the query completes that
is so slow? It's just that networking is ruled out.
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on the information you've given and the responses you've made,
I think you're as likely to roll a 1d6 and get the right solution as
anything else.
Good luck.
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for the query to finish using the page it's using.
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in advance
To add to Mikko's comments:
Periodic vacuuming and analyzing is a mandatory part of running a
PostgreSQL database server. You'll probably be best served to configure
the autovacuum daemon to handle this for you. See the postgresql.conf
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about its activities.
There were discussions on other lists about improving autovacuum's log
messages, I'm pretty sure it will log more helpful information in 8.3.
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Up to 4G, but you have to add the price of the RAM on to the price of
the card.
In the case of WAL logs, you could probably get away with a lot less
space than many other usages, so they might be very practical.
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. The explain analyze output is
going to be key to working this out -- unless it's something like
your postgresql.conf isn't properly tuned.
I vacuum and
reindex the database daily.
I'd prefer not to have to rewrite the code, so any suggestions would be
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afford any downtime, you may be able to use Slony to
do your upgrade. However, slony adds overhead, and if this system
is tapped out already, it may not tolerate the additional overhead.
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I've had similar experience. One thing you didn't mention that I've noticed
is that VACUUM FULL often bloats indexes. I've made it SOP that
after application upgrades (which usually
be recommended if you didn't expect the index contents
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settings. What other activity is occurring during this long count()?
Can you give us a shot of the iostat output and/or top during this
phenomenon?
Jozsef
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If none of those are the case, then please describe the actual problem
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Hmmm... I wonder why this would just start now, three days ago. Everything
seemed to be normal for the last two weeks.
Someone alter /etc/periodic.conf? Perhaps it's been running all along but
you never noticed it before now?
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an appropriate autovaccum schedule would not
apply to your scenario. I'm not saying it does, only that your response
does not indicate that it doesn't, and thus I'm concerned that you're
writing autovacuum off without proper research.
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switch to once a week, then probably settle on
once a month to ensure nothing ever gets out of hand. Put it in a cron
job and have the output mailed.
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for processing individual queries. See work_mem.
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manual vacuum and autovacuum together, and you'll
be able to gather _some_ information about how well autovacuum is
keeping up.
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is right, you'll probably see improved performance by allocating
more shared memory to PostgreSQL, thus avoiding having to move data from
one area in memory to another before it can be used.
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On 6/8/07, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I need some help. I have started taking snapshots of performance of my
databases with concerns to io. I created a view on each cluster
the database is. Provide the output of vacuum verbose.
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work, unfortunately. The on-disk representation of the data is
different between ia32 and amd64.
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Since PITR has to enable archiving does this not increase the amount
of disk I/O required ?
It does increase the required amount of I/O.
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