Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-15 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jun 13, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Steve Poe wrote: Can anyone share what their experience has been with Intel's dual core CPUs and/or Dell's new servers? I'm one of the few Dell fans around here... but I must say that I don't buy them for my big DB servers specifically since they don't

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-15 Thread Steve Poe
Vivek, Thanks for your feedback. Which Dell server did you purchase? The client has a PowerEdge 2600 and they STILL want Dell. Again, if it were my pocketbook, Dell would not be there. The client has a 30GB DB. This is large for me, but probably not with you. Also, I am advising the client

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-15 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jun 15, 2006, at 1:10 PM, Steve Poe wrote: Vivek, Thanks for your feedback. Which Dell server did you purchase? I have many many dell rackmounts: 1550, 1650, 1750, 1850, and SC1425 and throw in a couple of 2450. I *really* like the 1850 with built-in SCSI RAID. It is fast enough

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Poe
Dave, Joshua, Scott (and all), Thanks for your feedback, while I do appreciate it, I did not intent on making this discussion buy this instead...I whole-heartly agree with you. Joshua, you made the best comment, it is a business decision for the client. I don't agree with it, but I understand it.

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-14 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 15:11, Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- And how old are the 2600's now? Anyhoo, I'm not saying the current machines are excellent performers or anything, but there are good business reasons to run them if you don't need to squeeze out every last pony.

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Page
Title: RE: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql? From: Scott Marlowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 June 2006 18:04To: Dave PageCc: Joshua D. Drake; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pgsql-performance@postgresql.orgSubject: RE: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-14 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 13:43, Dave Page wrote: Just thought I'd point you to Dell's forums. http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board?board.id=pes_linuxpage=1 wherein you'll find plenty of folks who have problems with

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Scott Marlowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 June 2006 20:52 To: Dave Page Cc: Joshua D. Drake; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: RE: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql? Yeah, We've got a mix of 2650

[PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Poe
I have a client who is running Postgresql 7.4.x series database (required to use 7.4.x). They are planning an upgrade to a new server. They are insistent on Dell. I have personal experience with AMD dual Opteron, but I have not seen any benchmarks on Intel's dual core Xeon. I've seen in the past

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-13 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 13:02, Steve Poe wrote: I have a client who is running Postgresql 7.4.x series database (required to use 7.4.x). They are planning an upgrade to a new server. They are insistent on Dell. Do they have a logical reason for this, or is it mostly hand-waving? My experience

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-13 Thread Chris Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Poe) writes: I have a client who is running Postgresql 7.4.x series database (required to use 7.4.x). They are planning an upgrade to a new server. They are insistent on Dell. Then they're being insistent on poor performance. If you search for dell postgresql

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-13 Thread David Boreham
My suggestion is to look at something like this: http://www.abmx.com/1u-supermicro-amd-opteron-rackmount-server-p-210.html 1U rackmount opteron from Supermicro that can have two dual core opterons and 4 drives and up to 16 gigs of ram. Supermicro server motherboards have always treated me

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
David Boreham wrote: My suggestion is to look at something like this: http://www.abmx.com/1u-supermicro-amd-opteron-rackmount-server-p-210.html 1U rackmount opteron from Supermicro that can have two dual core opterons and 4 drives and up to 16 gigs of ram. Supermicro server

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Scott Marlowe wrote: On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 13:02, Steve Poe wrote: I have a client who is running Postgresql 7.4.x series database (required to use 7.4.x). They are planning an upgrade to a new server. They are insistent on Dell. Do they have a logical reason for this, or is it mostly

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-13 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua D. Drake Sent: 13 June 2006 20:44 To: Scott Marlowe Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql

Re: [PERFORM] Which processor runs better for Postgresql?

2006-06-13 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 12:44:17PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote: You can get extremely competitive quotes from IBM or HP as long as you say, You are competing against Dell. Possibly even more competitive from Sun... -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pervasive