Re: [PERFORM] ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a

2005-05-15 Thread William Yu
I say most apps because it's true. :) I would suggest that pretty much every app (other than video/audio streaming) people think are bandwidth-limited are actually latency-limited. Take the SpecFoo tests. Sure I would have rather seen SAP/TPC/etc that would be more relevant to Postgres but ther

Re: [PERFORM] ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a hosed system

2005-05-15 Thread Greg Stark
William Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It turns out the latency in a 2xDC setup is just so much lower and most apps > like lower latency than higher bandwidth. You haven't tested anything about "most apps". You tested what the SpecFoo apps prefer. If you're curious about which Postgres prefers

Re: [PERFORM] ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a hosed system

2005-05-14 Thread William Yu
4-way SMP Opteron system is actually pretty damn cheap -- if you get 2xDual Core versus 4xSingle. I just ordered a 2x265 (4x1.8ghz) system and the price was about $1300 more than a 2x244 (2x1.8ghz). Now you might ask, is a 2xDC comparable to 4x1? Here's some benchmarks I've found that showing D

Re: [PERFORM] ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a hosed system again)

2005-05-14 Thread Mike Nolan
> This can often be called for. I'm working on a 400GB data warehouse right > now, and almost *all* of our queries run from materialized aggregate tables. I thought that was pretty much the definition of data warehousing! :-) -- Mike Nolan ---(end of broadcast)-

Re: [PERFORM] ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a hosed system again)

2005-05-14 Thread Josh Berkus
Joel, > The two worst queries (our case and audit applications) I created > denormalized files and maintain them through code. All reporting comes off > those and it is lightning fast. This can often be called for. I'm working on a 400GB data warehouse right now, and almost *all* of our queries

Re: [PERFORM] ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a hosed system again)

2005-05-14 Thread Joel Fradkin
sage- From: David Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:03 PM To: Joel Fradkin Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [PERFORM] ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a hosed system again) Joel Fradkin wrote: > Is the battery backed cache good or

Re: [PERFORM] ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a

2005-05-13 Thread David Brown
Joel Fradkin wrote: Is the battery backed cache good or bad for Postgres? Battery-backed avoids corruption if you have an unexpected power loss. It's considered mandatory with large-cache write-back controllers if you can't afford to lose any data. They are telling me I can only get a duel chann

Re: [PERFORM] ok you all win what is best opteron (I dont want a hosed system again)

2005-05-13 Thread Merlin Moncure
Joel wrote: I have been following threads (in case you don't know I bought a 4 proc Dell recently) and the Opteron seems the way to go. I just called HP for a quote, but don't want to make any mistakes. [snip] At your level of play it's the DL585. Have you checked out http://www.swt.com? Merlin