Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Justin
OK i'm showing my ignorance of linux. On Ubuntu i can't seem to figure out if XFS file system is installed, if not installed getting it installed. I would like to see the difference between XFS and ext2 performance numbers. any pointers would be nice. I 'm not going to reinstall the OS.

Re: [PERFORM] Lots of "semop" calls under load

2008-03-17 Thread Albe Laurenz
Tom Lane wrote: >> On a database (PostgreSQL 8.2.4 on 64-bit Linux 2.6.18 on 8 AMD Opterons) >> that is under high load, I observe the following: ... >> - "vmstat" shows that CPU time is divided between "idle" and "iowait", >> with user and sys time practically zero. >> - "sar" says that the disk

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Justin wrote: OK i'm showing my ignorance of linux. On Ubuntu i can't seem to figure out if XFS file system is installed, if not installed getting it installed. Hm? Installed/not installed? You can select that when you are preparing your partitions. If you run the automated partitioner ther

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Andrej Ricnik-Bay
On 17/03/2008, Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK i'm showing my ignorance of linux. On Ubuntu i can't seem to figure > out if XFS file system is installed, if not installed getting it > installed. ... > any pointers would be nice. I 'm not going to reinstall the OS. Nor do > i want to

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Craig Ringer
Justin wrote: > OK i'm showing my ignorance of linux. On Ubuntu i can't seem to figure > out if XFS file system is installed, if not installed getting it > installed. There are two parts to the file system, really. One is the kernel driver for the file system. This is almost certainly available

[PERFORM] performance tools

2008-03-17 Thread sathiya psql
hi all, I want this mail to be continued about summary of performance tuning tools... or other postgres related tools.. I ll start with saying there is a tool SCHEMASPY ( i got to know about this from this group only ), this will draw ER diagram and gives interesting informations about our postgre

Re: [PERFORM] performance tools

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Steben
Toad Data Modeler from Quest Software is an E/R diagram tool that works for us. And - it has a freeware version. Mark Steben Senior Database Administrator @utoRevenueT A Dominion Enterprises Company 480 Pleasant Street Suite B200 Lee, MA 01238 413-243-4800 Home Office 413-243-4809 Corporate

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Justin
Well every thing worked right up to the point where i tried to mount the file system Warning: xfs_db: /dev/sdb1 contains a mounted file system fatal error -- couldn't initialize XFS library. think i'm missing something??? Craig Ringer wrote: Justin wrote: OK i'm showing my ignorance of

Re: [PERFORM] performance tools

2008-03-17 Thread sathiya psql
i thought many a replies will come... but only one.. common guys... it may be helping you in tuning your database indirectly, post that tool also, give some informations such as Tool Name: Schemaspy Open Source: YES Database: Postgres URL: http://sourceforge.net/projects/schemaspy/1 Following can

Re: [PERFORM] performance tools

2008-03-17 Thread Ben Chobot
Have you tried the archive search tool for this very mailing list? There's a wealth of information imparted all the time, and tuning is generally about knowledge of what's happening, not blindly following the output of some program. On Mar 17, 2008, at 8:46 AM, sathiya psql wrote: i thou

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Dave Cramer
On 17-Mar-08, at 2:50 PM, Justin wrote: Just out of curiosity: Last time I did research, the word seemed to be that xfs was better than ext2 or ext3. Is that not true? Why use ext2/3 at all if xfs is faster for Postgres? Criag Ext2 vs XFS on my setup there is difference in the perf

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Justin
2000 tps ??? do you have fsync turned off ? Dave No its turned on. -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance

Re: [PERFORM] What is the best way to storage music files in Postgresql

2008-03-17 Thread Peter Koczan
> > I am going to embarkon building a music library using apache, > > postgresql and php. What is the best way to store the music files? > > Your options are either to use a BLOB within the database or to store > paths to normal files in the file system in the database. I suspect > using norm

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Craig James
Justin wrote: 2000 tps ??? do you have fsync turned off ? Dave No its turned on. Unless I'm seriously confused, something is wrong with these numbers. That's the sort of performance you expect from a good-sized RAID 10 six-disk array. With a single 7200 rpm SATA disk and XFS, I get 640

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Justin
Craig James wrote: Justin wrote: 2000 tps ??? do you have fsync turned off ? Dave No its turned on. Unless I'm seriously confused, something is wrong with these numbers. That's the sort of performance you expect from a good-sized RAID 10 six-disk array. With a single 7200 rpm SATA di

Re: [PERFORM] What is the best way to storage music files in Postgresql

2008-03-17 Thread Rich
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Peter Koczan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am going to embarkon building a music library using apache, > > > postgresql and php. What is the best way to store the music files? > > > > Your options are either to use a BLOB within the database or to store

Re: [PERFORM] What is the best way to storage music files in Postgresql

2008-03-17 Thread Rich
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Craig Ringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rich wrote: > > I am going to embarkon building a music library using apache, > > postgresql and php. What is the best way to store the music files? > > Your options are either to use a BLOB within the database or to sto

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Justin
Just out of curiosity: Last time I did research, the word seemed to be that xfs was better than ext2 or ext3. Is that not true? Why use ext2/3 at all if xfs is faster for Postgres? Criag Ext2 vs XFS on my setup there is difference in the performance between the two file systems but its

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Enrico Sirola
Hi Justin, Il giorno 17/mar/08, alle ore 20:38, Justin ha scritto: it is a RAID 10 controller with 6 SAS 10K 73 gig drives.The server is 3 weeks old now. it has 16 gigs of RAM 2 quad core Xenon 1.88 Ghz processors 2 gig Ethernet cards. RAID controller perc 6/i with battery backup 512meg

Re: [PERFORM] Benchmark: Dell/Perc 6, 8 disk RAID 10

2008-03-17 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Enrico Sirola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Justin, > > Il giorno 17/mar/08, alle ore 20:38, Justin ha scritto: > > > it is a RAID 10 controller with 6 SAS 10K 73 gig drives.The > > server is 3 weeks old now. > > > > it has 16 gigs of RAM > > 2 quad core

Re: [PERFORM] performance tools

2008-03-17 Thread Andrej Ricnik-Bay
On 18/03/2008, sathiya psql <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i thought many a replies will come... but only one.. You *ARE* aware of the fact that many people on this planet aren't in your time-zone, eh? And as Ben pointed out: there's been a good lot of similar questions - people who want to know can

Re: [PERFORM] TB-sized databases

2008-03-17 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have _not_ added a TODO for this item. Let me know if one is needed. --- Tom Lane wrote: > Ron Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> There's something fishy about this --- given that that plan has a l

Re: [PERFORM] TB-sized databases

2008-03-17 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have _not_ added a TODO for this item. Let me know if one is needed. Please do, I think it's an open issue. * Consider Cartesian joins when both relations are needed to form an indexscan qualification for a third relation r

Re: [PERFORM] TB-sized databases

2008-03-17 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have _not_ added a TODO for this item. Let me know if one is needed. > > Please do, I think it's an open issue. > > * Consider Cartesian joins when both relations are needed to form an > indexscan qualification for a third relat

Re: [PERFORM] TB-sized databases

2008-03-17 Thread Pablo Alcaraz
All that helps to pgsql to perform good in a TB-sized database enviroment is a Good Think (r) :D Pablo Bruce Momjian wrote: I have _not_ added a TODO for this item. Let me know if one is needed. -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org) To make changes t

Re: [PERFORM] performance tools

2008-03-17 Thread Franck Routier
Hi, ok, what about Squirrel-Sql ? Tool Name: Squirrel sql Free software: YES URL: http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/ Java multi-rdbms sql client. Run on Linux, Windows, ... Easily Installable: YES Performance TUNING tool: don't know what this means :) ER diagram tool: Yes Query Analysis Tool:

Re: [PERFORM] What is the best way to storage music files in Postgresql

2008-03-17 Thread Peter Koczan
> It seems to me as such a database gets larger, it will become much harder to > manage with the 2 systems. I am talking mostly about music. So each song > should not get too large. I was just talking about points to consider in general. Getting to your specific situation... As far as BLOBs

Re: [PERFORM] TB-sized databases

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Mayer
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I have _not_ added a TODO for this item. Let me know if one is needed. Please do, I think it's an open issue. * Consider Cartesian joins when both relations are needed to form an indexscan qualification for a third relation Woul