Re: [PERFORM] Sun Donated a Sun Fire T2000 to the PostgreSQL
Tom Lane wrote: Tatsuo Ishii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 18% in s_lock is definitely bad :-(. Were you able to determine which LWLock(s) are accounting for the contention? Sorry for the delay. Finally I got the oprofile data. It's huge(34MB). If you are interested, I can put somewhere. Please let me know. I finally got a chance to look at this, and it seems clear that all the traffic is on the BufMappingLock. This is essentially the same problem we were discussing with respect to Gavin Hamill's report of poor performance on an 8-way IBM PPC64 box (see hackers archives around 2006-04-21). If your database is fully cached in shared buffers, then you can do a whole lot of buffer accesses per unit time, and even though all the BufMappingLock acquisitions are in shared-LWLock mode, the LWLock's spinlock ends up being heavily contended on an SMP box. It's likely that CVS HEAD would show somewhat better performance because of the btree change to cache local copies of index metapages (which eliminates a fair fraction of buffer accesses, at least in Gavin's test case). Getting much further than that seems to require partitioning the buffer mapping table. The last discussion stalled on my concerns about unpredictable shared memory usage, but I have some ideas on that which I'll post separately. In the meantime, thanks for sending along the oprofile data! regards, tom lane I ran pgbench and fired up a DTrace script using the lwlock probes we've added, and it looks like BufMappingLock is the most contended lock, but CheckpointStartLocks are held for longer duration! Lock IdMode Count ControlFileLock Exclusive 1 SubtransControlLock Exclusive 1 BgWriterCommLock Exclusive 6 FreeSpaceLock Exclusive 6 FirstLockMgrLock Exclusive 48 BufFreelistLock Exclusive 74 BufMappingLock Exclusive 74 CLogControlLock Exclusive 184 XidGenLock Exclusive 184 CheckpointStartLock Shared 185 WALWriteLock Exclusive 185 ProcArrayLock Exclusive 368 CLogControlLock Shared 552 SubtransControlLock Shared1273 WALInsertLock Exclusive1476 XidGenLock Shared1842 ProcArrayLock Shared3160 SInvalLock Shared3684 BufMappingLock Shared 14578 Lock Id Combined Time (ns) ControlFileLock 7915 BgWriterCommLock43438 FreeSpaceLock 39 BufFreelistLock 448530 FirstLockMgrLock 2879957 CLogControlLock 4237750 SubtransControlLock 6378042 XidGenLock 9500422 WALInsertLock 16372040 SInvalLock 23284554 ProcArrayLock 32188638 BufMappingLock113128512 WALWriteLock142391501 CheckpointStartLock 4171106665 Regards, -Robert ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
[PERFORM] Forcing using index instead of sequential scan?
Title: Forcing using index instead of sequential scan? I have been testing the performance of PostgreSQL using the simple tool found at http://benchw.sourceforge.net however I have found that all the queries it run execute with sequential scans. The website where the code runs has examples of the execution plan using indexes. When I disable the sequential plan query 0 and query 1 run faster ( http://benchw.sourceforge.net/benchw_results_postgres_history.html ) by using the indexes as suggested by the website. I have tried increasing the effective_cache_size and reducing the random_page_cost to try and force the optimiser to use the index but it always uses the sequential scan. What is the best way to force the use of indexes in these queries? Currently testing with version 8.1.4. Regards Robin Smith British Telecommunications plc Registered office: 81 Newgate Street London EC1A 7AJ Registered in England no. 180 This electronic message contains information from British Telecommunications plc which may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us by telephone or e-mail (to the number or address above) immediately.
Re: [PERFORM] Forcing using index instead of sequential scan?
More information from the query:- explain analyze SELECT d0.dmth, count(f.fval ) FROM dim0 AS d0, fact0 AS f WHERE d0.d0key = f.d0key AND d0.ddate BETWEEN '2010-01-01' AND '2010-12-28' GROUP BY d0.dmth ; QUERY PLAN - HashAggregate (cost=336998.83..336998.84 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=33823.124..33823.134 rows=12 loops=1) - Hash Join (cost=214.83..335343.83 rows=331000 width=8) (actual time=61.065..33605.343 rows=336000 loops=1) Hash Cond: (outer.d0key = inner.d0key) - Seq Scan on fact0 f (cost=0.00..281819.00 rows=1000 width=8) (actual time=12.766..28945.036 rows=1000 loops=1) - Hash (cost=214.00..214.00 rows=331 width=8) (actual time=31.120..31.120 rows=336 loops=1) - Seq Scan on dim0 d0 (cost=0.00..214.00 rows=331 width=8) (actual time=26.362..30.895 rows=336 loops=1) Filter: ((ddate = '2010-01-01'::date) AND (ddate = '2010-12-28'::date)) Total runtime: 33823.220 ms (8 rows) benchw=# \d fact0 Table public.fact0 Column | Type | Modifiers ++--- d0key | integer| not null d1key | integer| not null d2key | integer| not null fval | integer| not null ffill | character varying(100) | not null Indexes: fact0_d0key btree (d0key) fact0_d1key btree (d1key) fact0_d2key btree (d2key) benchw=# \d dim0 Table public.dim0 Column | Type | Modifiers +-+--- d0key | integer | not null ddate | date| not null dyr| integer | not null dmth | integer | not null dday | integer | not null Indexes: dim0_d0key UNIQUE, btree (d0key) The example on the web site has the following execution plan:- QUERY PLAN HashAggregate (cost=286953.94..286953.94 rows=1 width=8) - Nested Loop (cost=0.00..285268.93 rows=337002 width=8) - Seq Scan on dim0 d0 (cost=0.00..219.00 rows=337 width=8) Filter: ((ddate = '2010-01-01'::date) AND (ddate = '2010-12-28'::date)) - Index Scan using fact0_d0key on fact0 f (cost=0.00..833.07 rows=1022 width=8) Index Cond: (outer.d0key = f.d0key) It uses the index on the join condition. When I disable the sequential scan with:- SET enable_seqscan TO off; The execution plan looks like:- QUERY PLAN HashAggregate (cost=648831.52..648831.53 rows=1 width=8) (actual time=19155.060..19155.071 rows=12 loops=1) - Nested Loop (cost=7.51..647176.52 rows=331000 width=8) (actual time=97.878..18943.155 rows=336000 loops=1) - Index Scan using dim0_d0key on dim0 d0 (cost=0.00..248.00 rows=331 width=8) (actual time=40.467..55.780 rows=336 loops=1) Filter: ((ddate = '2010-01-01'::date) AND (ddate = '2010-12-28'::date)) - Bitmap Heap Scan on fact0 f (cost=7.51..1941.94 rows=1002 width=8) (actual time=0.991..55.391 rows=1000 loops=336) Recheck Cond: (outer.d0key = f.d0key) - Bitmap Index Scan on fact0_d0key (cost=0.00..7.51 rows=1002 width=0) (actual time=0.583..0.583 rows=1000 loops=336) Index Cond: (outer.d0key = f.d0key) Total runtime: 19155.176 ms (9 rows) The query is 19 seconds long now; down from 34 seconds although the execution plan doesn't match the example from the website. Regards Robin -Original Message- From: Peter Eisentraut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 July 2006 12:46 To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Cc: Smith,R,Robin,XJE4JA C Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Forcing using index instead of sequential scan? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the best way to force the use of indexes in these queries? Well, the brute-force method is to use SET enable_seqscan TO off, but if you want to get to the bottom of this, you should look at or post the EXPLAIN ANALYZE output of the offending queries. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [PERFORM] Forcing using index instead of sequential scan?
The tables have all been analysed. I set the work_mem to 50 and it still doesn't use the index :-( Regards Robin -Original Message- From: Richard Huxton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 July 2006 12:54 To: Smith,R,Robin,XJE4JA C Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Forcing using index instead of sequential scan? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been testing the performance of PostgreSQL using the simple tool found at http://benchw.sourceforge.net however I have found that all the queries it run execute with sequential scans. The website where the code runs has examples of the execution plan using indexes. When I disable the sequential plan query 0 and query 1 run faster ( http://benchw.sourceforge.net/benchw_results_postgres_history.html ) by using the indexes as suggested by the website. I have tried increasing the effective_cache_size and reducing the random_page_cost to try and force the optimiser to use the index but it always uses the sequential scan. What is the best way to force the use of indexes in these queries? Currently testing with version 8.1.4. Well, you don't want to be forcing it if possible. Ideally, PG should be able to figure out what to use itself. In the case of query0 and query1 as shown on your web-page I'd expect a sequential scan of dim0 then access via the index on fact0. Reasons why this might not be happening include: 1. Inaccurate stats - ANALYSE your tables 2. Insufficient memory for sorting etc - issue SET work_mem=XXX before the query and try increased values. 3. Other parameters are out-of-whack. For example, effective_cache_size doesn't change how much cache PG uses, it tells PG how much the O.S. will cache. You might find http://www.powerpostgresql.com/PerfList is a good quick introduction. So - ANALYSE your tables http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/sql-analyze.html Then post EXPLAIN ANALYSE for the queries and we'll see what they're doing. -- Richard Huxton Archonet Ltd ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [PERFORM] Forcing using index instead of sequential scan?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the best way to force the use of indexes in these queries? Well, the brute-force method is to use SET enable_seqscan TO off, but if you want to get to the bottom of this, you should look at or post the EXPLAIN ANALYZE output of the offending queries. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
[PERFORM] postgres benchmarks
Hello, does anybody use OSDB benchmarks for postgres? if not, which kind of bechmarks are used for postgres? Thanks, Denis. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [PERFORM] Sun Donated a Sun Fire T2000 to the PostgreSQL
Robert Lor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I ran pgbench and fired up a DTrace script using the lwlock probes we've added, and it looks like BufMappingLock is the most contended lock, but CheckpointStartLocks are held for longer duration! Those numbers look a bit suspicious --- I'd expect to see some of the LWLocks being taken in both shared and exclusive modes, but you don't show any such cases. You sure your script is counting correctly? Also, it'd be interesting to count time spent holding shared lock separately from time spent holding exclusive. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] [PERFORM] Sun Donated a Sun Fire T2000 to the PostgreSQL
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 12:56:56AM -0700, Robert Lor wrote: I ran pgbench and fired up a DTrace script using the lwlock probes we've added, and it looks like BufMappingLock is the most contended lock, but CheckpointStartLocks are held for longer duration! Not terribly surprising given that that lock can generate a substantial amount of IO (though looking at the numbers, you might want to make bgwriter more aggressive). Also, that's a shared lock, so it won't have nearly the impact that BufMappingLock does. Lock IdMode Count ControlFileLock Exclusive 1 SubtransControlLock Exclusive 1 BgWriterCommLock Exclusive 6 FreeSpaceLock Exclusive 6 FirstLockMgrLock Exclusive 48 BufFreelistLock Exclusive 74 BufMappingLock Exclusive 74 CLogControlLock Exclusive 184 XidGenLock Exclusive 184 CheckpointStartLock Shared 185 WALWriteLock Exclusive 185 ProcArrayLock Exclusive 368 CLogControlLock Shared 552 SubtransControlLock Shared1273 WALInsertLock Exclusive1476 XidGenLock Shared1842 ProcArrayLock Shared3160 SInvalLock Shared3684 BufMappingLock Shared 14578 Lock Id Combined Time (ns) ControlFileLock 7915 BgWriterCommLock43438 FreeSpaceLock 39 BufFreelistLock 448530 FirstLockMgrLock 2879957 CLogControlLock 4237750 SubtransControlLock 6378042 XidGenLock 9500422 WALInsertLock 16372040 SInvalLock 23284554 ProcArrayLock 32188638 BufMappingLock113128512 WALWriteLock142391501 CheckpointStartLock 4171106665 Regards, -Robert ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pervasive Software http://pervasive.comwork: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] [PERFORM] Sun Donated a Sun Fire T2000 to the PostgreSQL
Hi, Tom Lane schrieb: Robert Lor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I ran pgbench and fired up a DTrace script using the lwlock probes we've added, and it looks like BufMappingLock is the most contended lock, but CheckpointStartLocks are held for longer duration! Those numbers look a bit suspicious --- I'd expect to see some of the LWLocks being taken in both shared and exclusive modes, but you don't show any such cases. You sure your script is counting correctly? Also, it'd be interesting to count time spent holding shared lock separately from time spent holding exclusive. Is there a test case which shows the contention for this full cached tables? It would be nice to have measurable numbers like context switches and queries per second. Sven. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [PERFORM] Sun Donated a Sun Fire T2000 to the PostgreSQL
Tom Lane wrote: Those numbers look a bit suspicious --- I'd expect to see some of the LWLocks being taken in both shared and exclusive modes, but you don't show any such cases. You sure your script is counting correctly? I'll double check to make sure no stupid mistakes were made! Also, it'd be interesting to count time spent holding shared lock separately from time spent holding exclusive. Will provide that data later today. Regards, -Robert ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [PERFORM] BUG #2543: Performance delay acrros the same day
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 07:41:02 +, Alaa El Gohary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following bug has been logged online: The report below isn't a bug, its a performance question and should have been sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am redirecting replies there. A query on the postgresql DB takes about 5 seconds and then it starts to take more time till it reaches about 60 seconds by the end of the same day. I tried vacuum but nothing changed the only thing that works is to dump the DB ,drop and create a new one with the dump taken. i need to know if there is any way to restore the performance back without the need for drop and create cause i can't do this accross the day You most likely aren't vacuuming often enough and/or don't have your FSM setting high enough. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
[PERFORM] Bad Planner Statistics for Uneven distribution.
I discussed this with a few members of #postgresql freenode this morning. I'll keep it breif; [note: i have cleaned out columns not relevant] I have two tables, brands and models_brands. The first has about 300 records, the later about 350,000 records. The number of distinct brands in the models_brands table is 10. =# \d models_brands Table "public.models_brands"Column | Type | Modifiers+---+---model | integer | not nullbrand | integer | not nullIndexes: "models_brands_brand" btree (brand)Foreign-key constraints: "models_brands_brand_fkey" FOREIGN KEY (brand) REFERENCES brands(brand_id) ON UPDATE CASCADE ON DELETE CASCADE "models_brands_model_fkey" FOREIGN KEY (model) REFERENCES models(model_id) ON UPDATE CASCADE ON DELETE CASCADE a=# \d brands; Table "public.brands" Column | Type | Modifiers++---brand_id | integer | not null default nextval('brands_brand_id_seq'::regclass)brand_name | character varying(255) | not nullIndexes: "brands_pkey" PRIMARY KEY, btree (brand_id) Now the plans/problems.. =# set enable_seqscan to on;SET=# explain analyze select distinct brand from models_brands; QUERY PLAN---Unique (cost=46300.70..48148.15 rows=4 width=4) (actual time=3699.691..6215.216 rows=4 loops=1) - Sort (cost=46300.70..47224.43 rows=369489 width=4) (actual time=3699.681..5027.069 rows=369489 loops=1) Sort Key: brand - Seq Scan on models_brands (cost=0.00..6411.89 rows=369489 width=4) (actual time=0.040..1352.997 rows=369489 loops=1)Total runtime: 6223.666 ms(5 rows) =# set enable_seqscan to off;SET=# explain analyze select distinct brand from models_brands; QUERY PLAN---Unique (cost=0.00..863160.68 rows=4 width=4) (actual time=0.131..2584.779 rows=4 loops=1) - Index Scan using models_brands_brand on models_brands (cost=0.00..862236.96 rows=369489 width=4) (actual time=0.122..1440.809 rows=369489 loops=1)Total runtime: 2584.871 ms(3 rows) Picks the wrong plan here. Should pick the index with seqscanning enabled. More (as a different wording/query)... (as suggested by others on irc) =# set enable_seqscan to on;SET=# explain analyze select brand_id from brands where exists (select 1 from models_brands where brand = brands.brand_id); QUERY PLANSeq Scan on brands (cost=0.00..30.09 rows=152 width=4) (actual time=7742.460..62567.543 rows=4 loops=1) Filter: (subplan) SubPlan - Seq Scan on models_brands (cost=0.00..7335.61 rows=92372 width=0) (actual time=206.467..206.467 rows=0 loops=303) Filter: (brand = $0)Total runtime: 62567.626 ms a=# set enable_seqscan to off;SET =# explain analyze select brand_id from brands where exists (select 1 from models_brands where brand = brands.brand_id); QUERY PLAN--Seq Scan on brands (cost=1.00..10715.90 rows=152 width=4) (actual time=0.615..3.710 rows=4 loops=1) Filter: (subplan) SubPlan - Index Scan using models_brands_brand on models_brands (cost=0.00..216410.97 rows=92372 width=0) (actual time=0.008..0.008 rows=0 loops=303) Index Cond: (brand = $0)Total runtime: 3.790 ms It was also tried to similar results with a LIMIT 1 in the subquery for exist. More... Seqscan still off.. =# explain analyze select distinct brand_id from brands inner join models_brands on (brand_id = brand); QUERY PLAN -Unique (cost=0.00..867782.58 rows=303 width=4) (actual time=0.391..4898.579 rows=4 loops=1) - Merge Join (cost=0.00..866858.85 rows=369489 width=4) (actual time=0.383..3749.771 rows=369489 loops=1) Merge Cond: ("outer".brand_id = "inner".brand) - Index Scan using brands_pkey on brands (cost=0.00..15.53 rows=303 width=4) (actual time=0.080..0.299 rows=60 loops=1) - Index Scan using models_brands_brand on models_brands (cost=0.00..862236.96 rows=369489 width=4) (actual time=0.013..1403.175 rows=369489 loops=1)Total runtime: 4898.697 ms =# set enable_seqscan to on;SET=# explain analyze select distinct brand_id from brands inner join models_brands on (brand_id = brand); QUERY PLAN-Unique
[PERFORM] Partitioned tables in queries
I have a case where I am partitioning tables based on a date range in version 8.1.4. For example: table_with_millions_of_records interaction_id char(16) primary key start_date timestamp (without timezone) - indexed .. other columns child_1 start_date = 2006-07-21 00:00:00 child_2 start_date = 2006-07-20 00:00:00 and start_date 2006-07-21 00:00:00 ... child_5 start_date = 2006-07-17 00:00:00 and start_date 2006-07-18 00:00:00 with rules on the parent and child tables that redirect the data to the appropriate child table based on the start_date. Because this table is going to grow very large (very quickly), and will need to be purged daily, I created partitions, or child tables to hold data for each day. I have done the same thing in Oracle in the past, and the PostgreSQL solution works great. The archival process is very simple - drop the expired child table. I am having one problem. If I run a query on the full table (there are 5 child tables with data for the last 5 days), and my where clause contains data for the current day only: where start_date date_trunc('day', now()) all 5 child tables are scanned when I look at the output from explain analyze. My question is - can I force the planner to only scan the relevant child table - when the key related to the partitioned data it part of the where clause? Thanks, Kevin ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [PERFORM] Partitioned tables in queries
On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Kevin Keith wrote: I have a case where I am partitioning tables based on a date range in version 8.1.4. For example: table_with_millions_of_records interaction_id char(16) primary key start_date timestamp (without timezone) - indexed .. other columns child_1 start_date = 2006-07-21 00:00:00 child_2 start_date = 2006-07-20 00:00:00 and start_date 2006-07-21 00:00:00 ... child_5 start_date = 2006-07-17 00:00:00 and start_date 2006-07-18 00:00:00 with rules on the parent and child tables that redirect the data to the appropriate child table based on the start_date. Because this table is going to grow very large (very quickly), and will need to be purged daily, I created partitions, or child tables to hold data for each day. I have done the same thing in Oracle in the past, and the PostgreSQL solution works great. The archival process is very simple - drop the expired child table. I am having one problem. If I run a query on the full table (there are 5 child tables with data for the last 5 days), and my where clause contains data for the current day only: where start_date date_trunc('day', now()) all 5 child tables are scanned when I look at the output from explain analyze. My question is - can I force the planner to only scan the relevant child table - when the key related to the partitioned data it part of the where clause? Yes. You'll need non-overlapping check constraints in each child table and to set constraint_exclusion to on in postgresql.conf. See http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/ddl-partitioning.html for the gory details. Cheers, Steve ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [PERFORM] Partitioned tables in queries
My post might have been a little premature - and I apologize for that. I have figured out what was causing the problem: 1. Constraint exclusion was disabled. I re-enabled. 2. I found that using the now() function - and arbitrary interval will produce a different execution plan that using a specific date. For example: assuming the current time is 16:00: a) where start_date now() - interval '4 hours' scans all child tables. b) where start_date '2006-07-21 12:00:00' only scans the child table with today's data. So am I to assume that the value in the query must be a constant, and cannot be a result of a built-in function in order for constraint_exclusion to work correctly? Thanks, Kevin Kevin Keith wrote: I have a case where I am partitioning tables based on a date range in version 8.1.4. For example: table_with_millions_of_records interaction_id char(16) primary key start_date timestamp (without timezone) - indexed .. other columns child_1 start_date = 2006-07-21 00:00:00 child_2 start_date = 2006-07-20 00:00:00 and start_date 2006-07-21 00:00:00 ... child_5 start_date = 2006-07-17 00:00:00 and start_date 2006-07-18 00:00:00 with rules on the parent and child tables that redirect the data to the appropriate child table based on the start_date. Because this table is going to grow very large (very quickly), and will need to be purged daily, I created partitions, or child tables to hold data for each day. I have done the same thing in Oracle in the past, and the PostgreSQL solution works great. The archival process is very simple - drop the expired child table. I am having one problem. If I run a query on the full table (there are 5 child tables with data for the last 5 days), and my where clause contains data for the current day only: where start_date date_trunc('day', now()) all 5 child tables are scanned when I look at the output from explain analyze. My question is - can I force the planner to only scan the relevant child table - when the key related to the partitioned data it part of the where clause? Thanks, Kevin ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [PERFORM] Bad Planner Statistics for Uneven distribution.
Kevin McArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Seq Scan on models_brands (cost=0.00..6411.89 rows=369489 width=4) (actual time=0.040..1352.997 rows=369489 loops=1) ... - Index Scan using models_brands_brand on models_brands (cost=0.00..862236.96 rows=369489 width=4) (actual time=0.122..1440.809 rows=369489 loops=1) Picks the wrong plan here. Should pick the index with seqscanning enabled. It's really not possible for a full-table indexscan to be faster than a seqscan, and not very credible for it even to be approximately as fast. I suspect your second query here is the beneficiary of the first query having fetched all the pages into cache. In general, if you want to optimize for a mostly-cached database, you need to reduce random_page_cost below its default value ... regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [PERFORM] Bad Planner Statistics for Uneven distribution.
Tom, On 7/21/06, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really not possible for a full-table indexscan to be faster than a seqscan, and not very credible for it even to be approximately as fast. I suspect your second query here is the beneficiary of the first query having fetched all the pages into cache. In general, if you want to optimize for a mostly-cached database, you need to reduce random_page_cost below its default value ... We discussed this case on IRC and the problem was not the first set of queries but the second one: select brand_id from brands where exists (select 1 from models_brands where brand = brands.brand_id);). Isn't there any way to make PostgreSQL have a better estimation here: - Index Scan using models_brands_brand on models_brands (cost=0.00..216410.97 rows=92372 width=0) (actual time=0.008..0.008 rows=0 loops=303) Index Cond: (brand = $0) I suppose it's because the planner estimates that there will be 92372 result rows that it chooses the seqscan instead of the index scan. ALTER STATISTICS didn't change anything. IIRC, there were already a few threads about the same sort of estimation problem and there wasn't any solution to solve this problem. Do you have any hint/ideas? -- Guillaume ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [PERFORM] Sun Donated a Sun Fire T2000 to the PostgreSQL
Tom Lane wrote: Also, it'd be interesting to count time spent holding shared lock separately from time spent holding exclusive. Tom, Here is the break down between exclusive shared LWLocks. Do the numbers look reasonable to you? Regards, -Robert bash-3.00# time ./Tom_lwlock_acquire.d `pgrep -n postgres` ** LWLock Count: Exclusive ** Lock IdMode Count ControlFileLock Exclusive 1 FreeSpaceLock Exclusive 9 XidGenLock Exclusive 202 CLogControlLock Exclusive 203 WALWriteLock Exclusive 203 BgWriterCommLock Exclusive 222 BufFreelistLock Exclusive 305 BufMappingLock Exclusive 305 ProcArrayLock Exclusive 405 FirstLockMgrLock Exclusive 670 WALInsertLock Exclusive1616 ** LWLock Count: Shared ** Lock IdMode Count CheckpointStartLock Shared 202 CLogControlLock Shared 450 SubtransControlLock Shared 776 XidGenLock Shared2020 ProcArrayLock Shared3778 SInvalLock Shared4040 BufMappingLock Shared 40838 ** LWLock Time: Exclusive ** Lock Id Combined Time (ns) ControlFileLock 8301 FreeSpaceLock80590 CLogControlLock 1603557 BgWriterCommLock 1607122 BufFreelistLock 1997406 XidGenLock 2312442 BufMappingLock 3161683 FirstLockMgrLock 5392575 ProcArrayLock 6034396 WALInsertLock 12277693 WALWriteLock324869744 ** LWLock Time: Shared ** Lock Id Combined Time (ns) CLogControlLock 3183788 SubtransControlLock 6956229 XidGenLock 12012576 SInvalLock 35567976 ProcArrayLock 45400779 BufMappingLock300669441 CheckpointStartLock 4056134243 real0m24.718s user0m0.382s sys 0m0.181s ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend