Re: [PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-23 Thread Guido Neitzer
I find the benchmark much more interesting in comparing PostgreSQL to MySQL than Intel to AMD. It might be as biased as other benchmarks but it shows clearly something that a lot of PostgreSQL user always thought: MySQL gives up on concurrency ... it just doesn't scale well. cug On 9/23/06,

Re: [PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-23 Thread Dave Cramer
On 23-Sep-06, at 9:00 AM, Guido Neitzer wrote: I find the benchmark much more interesting in comparing PostgreSQL to MySQL than Intel to AMD. It might be as biased as other benchmarks but it shows clearly something that a lot of PostgreSQL user always thought: MySQL gives up on concurrency ...

Re: [PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-23 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 9/23/06, Dave Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) The database fits entirely in memory, so this is really only testing CPU, not I/O which should be taken into account IMO I don't think this really is a reason that MySQL broke down on ten or more concurrent connections. The RAM might be, but

Re: [PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-23 Thread Dave Cramer
On 23-Sep-06, at 9:49 AM, Guido Neitzer wrote: On 9/23/06, Dave Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) The database fits entirely in memory, so this is really only testing CPU, not I/O which should be taken into account IMO I don't think this really is a reason that MySQL broke down on ten or

[PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-22 Thread Hannes Dorbath
A colleague pointed me to this site tomorrow: http://tweakers.net/reviews/642/13 I can't read the language, so can't get a grip on what exactly the benchmark was about. Their diagrams show `Request per seconds'. What should that mean? How many connections PG accepted per second? So they

Re: [PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-22 Thread Arjen van der Meijden
Try the translation ;) http://tweakers.net/reviews/646/13 On 22-9-2006 10:32 Hannes Dorbath wrote: A colleague pointed me to this site tomorrow: http://tweakers.net/reviews/642/13 I can't read the language, so can't get a grip on what exactly the benchmark was about. Their diagrams show

Re: [PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-22 Thread nicky
Hello Hannes, The text above the pictures on page 13. Translated in my crappy english. The confrontation between the Opteron and Woodcrest was inevitable in this article, but who can add 1 and 1 should have known from the previous two pages that it doesn't look that good for AMD . Under loads

Re: [PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-22 Thread Vivek Khera
On Sep 22, 2006, at 4:58 AM, nicky wrote: till 100 simultaneous visitors, the Xeon performs 24% better with MSQL 4.1.20, 30% better in MySQL 5.0.20a and 37% better in PostgreSQL 8.2-dev. In short, the Socket F Opteron doesn't stand a chance, although the Woodcrest scales better and has

Re: [PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-22 Thread Arjen van der Meijden
On 22-9-2006 22:34 Vivek Khera wrote: so you think AMD is just sitting around twiddling their thumbs and saying well, time to give up since Intel is faster today. no. there will be back-and forth between these two vendors to our benefit. I would expect next-gen AMD chips to be faster than

Re: [PERFORM] Opteron vs. Xeon benchmark

2006-09-22 Thread mark
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:50:47PM +0200, Arjen van der Meijden wrote: If you're an AMD-fan, by all means, buy their products, those processors are indeed fast and you can build decent servers with them. But don't rule out Intel, just because with previous processors they were the slower