Re: [PERFORM] auto vaccum is dying

2014-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Barboza
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Heikki Linnakangas hlinnakan...@vmware.com
wrote:

 On 10/02/2014 07:43 AM, Rodrigo Barboza wrote:

 Hello, I have a table that receives lots of updates and inserts.
 Auto vaccum is always being cancelled on that table.
 One day the database went on standby and I had to act manually to recover.

 What should I do to avoid auto vaccum cancel?


 Cancellation happens when you run a command that requires an a stronger on
 the table, like ALTER or TRUNCATE. Plain UPDATEs or INSERTS will not cause
 cancellations. There must be something else going on, causing the
 cancellations.

 - Heikki


I only do updates, inserts and deletes.


Re: [PERFORM] auto vaccum is dying

2014-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Barboza
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Jeff Janes jeff.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Rodrigo Barboza rodrigombu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello, I have a table that receives lots of updates and inserts.
 Auto vaccum is always being cancelled on that table.


 Do you have a scheduled task that clusters or reindexes the table?

 Newer versions of PostgreSQL will log the conflicting statement that
 caused the vacuum to cancel.


I have nothing scheduled, only auto vacuum, but with the default parameters.




 One day the database went on standby and I had to act manually to recover.


 I'm not sure what that means.  Do you mean it stopped accepting commands
 to prevent wrap around data loss?  Once autovacuum starts running on a
 table in prevent wrap around, then it no longer voluntarily yields to
 other processes trying to take a conflicting lock.



Exactly, stopped to prevent wrap around. I think it was because auto vacuum
is being canceled.



 What should I do to avoid auto vaccum cancel?


 If you have scheduled jobs that do something on the table that requires a
 lock which conflicts with autovac, then you might want to include a manual
 VACUUM in that job.

 Also, what full version are you running?


I am running postgres 9.1.4 with default auto vacuum parameters. I have
only a scheduled job that runs delete for old tuples. Sometimes it a lot of
tuples. Beside that, no other tasks.

Cheers,

 Jeff



Re: [PERFORM] auto vaccum is dying

2014-10-04 Thread Jeff Janes
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Rodrigo Barboza rodrigombu...@gmail.com
wrote:


 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Jeff Janes jeff.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Rodrigo Barboza rodrigombu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello, I have a table that receives lots of updates and inserts.
 Auto vaccum is always being cancelled on that table.


 Do you have a scheduled task that clusters or reindexes the table?

 Newer versions of PostgreSQL will log the conflicting statement that
 caused the vacuum to cancel.


 I have nothing scheduled, only auto vacuum, but with the default
 parameters.


So what is in the log files pertaining to this?



 Also, what full version are you running?


 I am running postgres 9.1.4 with default auto vacuum parameters. I have
 only a scheduled job that runs delete for old tuples. Sometimes it a lot of
 tuples. Beside that, no other tasks.



You are missing 10 minor releases worth of bug fixes, some of which are
related to autovacuuming.

Cheers,

Jeff


Re: [PERFORM] auto vaccum is dying

2014-10-02 Thread Heikki Linnakangas

On 10/02/2014 07:43 AM, Rodrigo Barboza wrote:

Hello, I have a table that receives lots of updates and inserts.
Auto vaccum is always being cancelled on that table.
One day the database went on standby and I had to act manually to recover.

What should I do to avoid auto vaccum cancel?


Cancellation happens when you run a command that requires an a stronger 
on the table, like ALTER or TRUNCATE. Plain UPDATEs or INSERTS will not 
cause cancellations. There must be something else going on, causing the 
cancellations.


- Heikki



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Re: [PERFORM] auto vaccum is dying

2014-10-02 Thread Dorian Hoxha
I think I've read that when auto-vacuum takes too long, run it more often.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Heikki Linnakangas hlinnakan...@vmware.com
wrote:

 On 10/02/2014 07:43 AM, Rodrigo Barboza wrote:

 Hello, I have a table that receives lots of updates and inserts.
 Auto vaccum is always being cancelled on that table.
 One day the database went on standby and I had to act manually to recover.

 What should I do to avoid auto vaccum cancel?


 Cancellation happens when you run a command that requires an a stronger on
 the table, like ALTER or TRUNCATE. Plain UPDATEs or INSERTS will not cause
 cancellations. There must be something else going on, causing the
 cancellations.

 - Heikki



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Re: [PERFORM] auto vaccum is dying

2014-10-02 Thread Jeff Janes
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Rodrigo Barboza rodrigombu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello, I have a table that receives lots of updates and inserts.
 Auto vaccum is always being cancelled on that table.


Do you have a scheduled task that clusters or reindexes the table?

Newer versions of PostgreSQL will log the conflicting statement that caused
the vacuum to cancel.



 One day the database went on standby and I had to act manually to recover.


I'm not sure what that means.  Do you mean it stopped accepting commands to
prevent wrap around data loss?  Once autovacuum starts running on a table
in prevent wrap around, then it no longer voluntarily yields to other
processes trying to take a conflicting lock.



 What should I do to avoid auto vaccum cancel?


If you have scheduled jobs that do something on the table that requires a
lock which conflicts with autovac, then you might want to include a manual
VACUUM in that job.

Also, what full version are you running?

Cheers,

Jeff


[PERFORM] auto vaccum is dying

2014-10-01 Thread Rodrigo Barboza
Hello, I have a table that receives lots of updates and inserts.
Auto vaccum is always being cancelled on that table.
One day the database went on standby and I had to act manually to recover.

What should I do to avoid auto vaccum cancel?