Re: Too many .history file in pg_xlog takes lots of space

2018-03-15 Thread 彭昱傑
Hi  Michael, Alvaro, Tom:

Really appreciate yours help, this is an invalid report, and I'm sorry for
that.

After I  examine restart script, I found we generate recovery.conf every
time, and this cause lost of timeline.

Thanks.

2018-03-14 23:29 GMT+08:00 Tom Lane :

> Alvaro Herrera  writes:
> > 彭昱傑 wrote:
> >> Every time I restart postgre server, it generates a new history file:
>
> > That's strange -- it shouldn't happen ... sounds like you're causing a
> > crash each time you restart.  Are you using immediate mode in shutdown
> > maybe?  If so, don't; use fast mode instead.
>
> I'm confused by this report too.  Plain crashes shouldn't result in
> forking a new timeline.  To check, I tried "-m immediate", as well as
> "kill -9 postmaster", and neither of those resulted in a new .history file
> on restart.  I wonder if the OP's restart process involves calling
> pg_resetxlog or something like that (which would be risky as heck).
>
> regards, tom lane
>


Re: Too many .history file in pg_xlog takes lots of space

2018-03-14 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera  writes:
> 彭昱傑 wrote:
>> Every time I restart postgre server, it generates a new history file:

> That's strange -- it shouldn't happen ... sounds like you're causing a
> crash each time you restart.  Are you using immediate mode in shutdown
> maybe?  If so, don't; use fast mode instead.

I'm confused by this report too.  Plain crashes shouldn't result in
forking a new timeline.  To check, I tried "-m immediate", as well as
"kill -9 postmaster", and neither of those resulted in a new .history file
on restart.  I wonder if the OP's restart process involves calling
pg_resetxlog or something like that (which would be risky as heck).

regards, tom lane



Re: Too many .history file in pg_xlog takes lots of space

2018-03-14 Thread Alvaro Herrera
彭昱傑 wrote:

> My postgre version is 9.4.9, and I face a space issue.

Latest in 9.4 is 9.4.17, so you're missing about two years of bug fixes.

> Every time I restart postgre server, it generates a new history file:

That's strange -- it shouldn't happen ... sounds like you're causing a
crash each time you restart.  Are you using immediate mode in shutdown
maybe?  If so, don't; use fast mode instead.

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Re: Too many .history file in pg_xlog takes lots of space

2018-03-14 Thread Michael Paquier
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 02:12:47PM +0800, 彭昱傑 wrote:
> It's useful information for me.

Once archived, there is no need to keep them in the data folder as if
needed at recovery the startup process would look for timeline history
files where necessary if it needs to do a timeline jump.

> I will examine my restart script, and study point-in-time-recovery.
> Also remove unused history file.

At the same time, the backend makes little effort to remove past
timeline history files, and those are just a couple of bytes, which
accumulate, so after a couple of hundreds of failovers you could bloat
the data folder.  Why not making their removal more aggressive at each
restart point created?  You don't need any history files older than the
current timeline recovery is processing, so we could make the removal
policy more aggressive.
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Re: Too many .history file in pg_xlog takes lots of space

2018-03-13 Thread 彭昱傑
Thank you.

It's useful information for me.
I will  examine my restart script, and study  point-in-time-recovery.
Also remove unused history file.

2018-03-14 13:56 GMT+08:00 Laurenz Albe :

> 彭昱傑 wrote:
> > My postgre version is 9.4.9, and I face a space issue.
> >
> > Every time I restart postgre server, it generates a new history file:
> > 156A.history =>  156B.history
> >
> > Now it takes a lot of space about 800MB (5787 history file):
> > [...]
> > Is  file 1570.history important?
>
> A new history file is created when a new timeline is opened,
> which happens after point-in-time-recovery or promotion of
> a physical standby server.
>
> There must be something weird in the way you start PostgreSQL.
> Examine the start script, maybe you can fix the problem.
>
> These files are only necessary for point-in-time-recovery,
> so you don't have to retain them any longer than you retain
> your WAL archives.
>
> Yours,
> Laurenz Albe
> --
> Cybertec | https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com
>


Re: Too many .history file in pg_xlog takes lots of space

2018-03-13 Thread Laurenz Albe
彭昱傑 wrote:
> My postgre version is 9.4.9, and I face a space issue.
> 
> Every time I restart postgre server, it generates a new history file:
> 156A.history =>  156B.history
> 
> Now it takes a lot of space about 800MB (5787 history file):
> [...]
> Is  file 1570.history important?

A new history file is created when a new timeline is opened,
which happens after point-in-time-recovery or promotion of
a physical standby server.

There must be something weird in the way you start PostgreSQL.
Examine the start script, maybe you can fix the problem.

These files are only necessary for point-in-time-recovery,
so you don't have to retain them any longer than you retain
your WAL archives.

Yours,
Laurenz Albe
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