( '{x,y,z}'::TEXT[] );
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, not a single array. This means that ANY() doesn't know exactly
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Kyle,
Nice to hear from you guys again! Action Target was one of the pioneers
of production open source in manufacturing; nice to know that you're
still doing well with it.
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Paul,
Hi is there a way wherein I can interface the pg_dump of PostgreSQL Server
in Visual basic.
I mean for example I want to backup Databases DB1, BD12, DB3 using
pg_dump
You'd have to run them as shell commands in VB. Not sure if VB has a
mechanism for that.
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that each row is visited only
once, but it doesn't seem to be possible. Ideas?
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-order, which re-orders the *table* so
there's no cascade
3) use the triggers to do the other tree-maintenance stuff, only for their
own rows/children (cascading triggers work *very* well for tree
maintenance).
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in the PostgreSQL source?
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?
Also, if you still have contact, Dave Cramer or Elein should be able to
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Silke,
I have a problem with arrays in Postgres. I want to create a really
large array, lets say 3 billion characters long.
Change your application design.
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Mark, Nathan,
I'm moving this over to the PGSQL-SQL list, away from -hackers, as it's no
longer a -hackers type discussion. Hope you don't mind!
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:31:16AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
I'm also a little baffled to come up with any real application where
making an id
Joel,
Now I found I had to do something like this just to have a timestamp
(problem is I do not want the format of the time stamp, my clients want to
see the month as a string)
Um, what's wrong with:
to_char(some_timestamp, 'Mon DD HH:MI:SS')
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Tomas,
I've written two on my own (see the functions below),
but maybe there's something faster?
Nope. 'cept I'd combine those two functions into a single function that
returns NULL if the value isn't an integer.
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are in the /contrib directory where the connectby source is:
/contrib/tablefunc/README.tablefunc
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reading the 7.1 docs and using 8.0? How about reading the 8.0
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to dumb *g*).
http://techdocs.postgresql.org/guides/SetReturningFunctions
Beware, though, that query plan estimation for SRFs is less accurate than for
regular subqueries, so you could end up with unnecessarily slow query
execution. Test!
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your feeback
before writing this procedure?
A proc won't run any faster ... much slower, in fact.Unless you mean that
you want to use it to correct the actual table structure, which is what you
should be doing?
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not want.
NUMERIC and FLOAT are different data types. Do:
round({value}::NUMERIC, {places})
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Sibtay,
As you might have observed here, the actual problem is
how to do assignment to multidimensional array locations using the
subscript operater.
Maybe post your results, too?
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an explicit transaction wrapping the two inserts.
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that you didn't really name a column time.
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(
field abc_col,
);
I find that DOMAINs give vastly enhanced managability compared to table
constraints.
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.
I'm afraid that bibliographic references is a rather esoteric need in the OSS
community.I personally haven't seen such a thing. You may have to create
your own.
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the trouble of porting an application, you
should port it to something current -- Debian Stable or not. Particularly
since, in a year, you can expect that the PostgreSQL community will probably
stop doing security/stability patches for 7.2.
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on psql (assuming you're using psql; if you're using a GUI tool, that
could be the problem). I've a feeling that your function is erroring out
*before* it gets to the raise.
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from being able to compromise it. It's a security thing.
You could easily write a function in an untrusted language, like PL/PerlU or
PL/PythonU, which would test for file existence and return a true/false
value.
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that oracle has stddev_sample and stddev_population.
This is just a wish list.
Were you aware that in PostgreSQL you can write your own aggregates? It's
relatively easy to do.
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::Manip, but use what you like.
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using it right now, and fixing the
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constraints, you have to drop and re-create them under a new
name (do this in a transaction for data safety). However, this requires
knowing what all those constraints do. I'd suggest doing a text pg_dump
file of your schema only (no data) and looking in the constraints section at
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]+)$'
... though that still seems inelegant to me. Is there a regex expert in the
house?
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Martin,
I have SQL highlighting, but what I want are colors for the PL/pgSQL
key words. It would make PL programming much easier.
KDE's Kate has PostgreSQL highlighting. Unfortunately, the config is XML so
it's not transferrable to Emacs ...
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.
Well, you'd want to convert the column to a timestamp, and then you could
compute months. Or you could break it in seperate integer year and
month columns and do the same thing.
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prd_data prd2
WHERE prd2.wid = prd1.wid ORDER BY date LIMIT 6) as tot_oil,
(SELECT SUM(hours) FROM prd3
WHERE prd3.wid = prd1.wid ORDER BY date LIMIT 6) as tot_hours
FROM prd_data prd1
ORDER BY wid;
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In this last, all dependant objects of, for example, a table (rules, triggers,
indexes, etc. ) would be rolled up into one file. It's this last version
that I personally favor.
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on your
hardware, you could do it procedurally in a programmming language)
3) Then running your aggregate becomes very easy/fast:
SELECT wid, sum(oil) as tot_oil, sum(hours) as tot_hours
FROM prd_data
WHERE months_prod 7
GROUP BY wid
ORDER BY wid;
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Riccardo,
Looks promising, but still what I need is a proper CVS output, as I
need to review the changes made to the specific database structure.
If it's Perl, I'd be interested in contributing. I've long needed something
like this myself.
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that has only 6 records per WID.
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.reviewer_id = reviewers.id)
or for a bit faster execution on PG you cann replace that WHERE clause with:
WHERE assign_date IN (SELECT ass2.assign_date FROM assign ass2
WHERE ass2.reviewer_id = reviewers.id ORDER BY ass2.assign_date DESC LIMIT 1)
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the
original value
Hmmm ... is 15 digits the limit of NUMERIC? It may be.
Is this expected behavior?
Yes.
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appreciate it if you can do so; it's time we
expanded the number of TSearch languages and efforts like yours are how it
happens.
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Jan,
Because the value in b.y is redundant. b.x-a.x-a.y is exactly the same
value and he even wants to ensure this with the constraint.
And in the absence of that constraint, what ensures that b.y = a.y, exactly?
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so
slow that we're going to to the procedural loop. Thanks, all!
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in standard
SQL to create an FK for it.This is one of the places I point to whenever
we have the SQL is imperfectly relational discussion.
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I wish this didn't have to be portable
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, field_name relates to the same class_name in objects.
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I'll wait for ASSERTIONS, I think.
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interested
enough.
However, you have an easy way out:
ALTER TABLE objects ADD CONSTRAINT obj_unq_2 UNIQUE (name, class_name);
This will add the unique constraint that Postgres wants without changing your
data at all.
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not allowed to use a custom aggregate or other
PostgreSQL advanced feature)
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;
RETURN array_to_string(child_list, '','');
END;' LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';
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Joe,
Are you sure this message isn't coming from some PHP middleware, e.g.
peardb or something. See:
http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.in-array.php
Hm ... possible. Will check with my PHP guy.
Would explain why I've not been able to track down the error.
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arrays.
I did try tinkering with some of the functions internals without apparent
effect.
I also checked for in_array and it's not a visible built-in function. Is this
maybe a PostgreSQL bug? Version is 7.4.1
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; otherwise you need to do a lot of calculation and querying to figure
out, when Server 11 wants to update Row 283432 of Table status, whether it
can be done locally or needs to be exchanged.
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the modulo is
0 and is less than 70 is a re-occurance.
Overall, though, I've found approach [a] to be easier and more convenient.
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Kenneth,
but why would anyone want to change the value of an autogenerated serial
row?
But if you're using a real key, it may need to change. The only reason *not*
do do it that way is performance issues with CASCADE.
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issue a WARNING on any time you create a
table in PG without a key.
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be incorrect and surrogate keys make it easier to make design
changes in production.
Once again, though, this is an *implementation* issue and not a *logic* issue,
as I asserted ...
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in the state yet where we want it but we are
getting there - or so I think.
When I have time, sure! But, this afternoon I am off to OSCON so I won't
have a chance for 2 weeks at least. Drop me a personal e-mail in August so I
don't forget.
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. Otherwise, you have more than database
problems. And it prevents you from having to rely on a flaky long text key.
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ases" I've encountered which contained tables with a surrogate key, and
NO REAL KEY of any kind. This makes data normalization impossible, and
cleanup of the database becomes a labor-intensive process requiring
hand-examination of each row.
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the speed of CASCADE operations whenever a
type_name changes. If these changes occur extremely infrequently, then you
can ignore this as well.
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Sad,
First of all, please excuse me if I've misunderstood you below because of
translation issues. You'll find I'm rather strident, but it's because the
reasons you're presenting, or seem to be, are excuses for bad database design
I hear every day on the job, and end up having
Sad,
can anyone comment the announcement of 7.5
about nested transactions ?
doesn't the nesting hurt the matter of transaction ?
7.5 hasn't been announced. It's not even in beta.
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Oh, and also a SELECT VERSION(); would be nice.
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that the = query is returning 60% of your table,
which makes indexes useless.
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every other programming language in
existance ...
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Hannes,
does anyone know how it is posible to set a composite type as the data
type of a column when creating a new table?
This is not yet supported. Hopefully it will be supported in the upcoming
version 7.5.
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is that the cursor isn't returning what you think it is, and is looping
several times ... thus attempting to insert the same value several times.
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? Or is there maybe an even better
way to structure my data?
Thanks for any contribution!
Roelant.
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VARCHAR
CHAR
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? Normalized designs are
almost always easier to deal with from a perspective of long-term
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The arrays, as far as I can tell, gain you nothing in ethier performance or
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Please re-post this with your table design in the body of your e-mail, and NO
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Sort of. See the Docs on Runtime Configuration on the GUC variable
Datestyle.
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were getting SQL on this project. Now the big vendors -- mostly IBM and
Oracle since Informix and Sybase are dying -- run everything and adapt the
standard to what features their products already have.
So, yes, SQL92 needed development and expansion. But we didn't need SQL99.
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James,
Would recursive queries be the trick to doing things like unwinding a
linked-list to either the head or tail, with:
Yes. Also check out contrib/ltree and contrib/tablefunc in your handy-dandy
PostgreSQL source code.
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the individual columns, or
2) Use PL/tcl, PL/Pyton, or C where you can select columnns by ordinal
position or other dynamic factor.
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that paragraph makes me
think that the type is somehow supposed to contain metadata or summary data
for the table itself.
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?What the heck is that
*for*?
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to arrays inside a PL/pgsql
function. What gives here?
PostgreSQL 7.4.1 on Linux.
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BTW, did you get my e-mail to Hackers about ARRAY[] IS NULL?
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Joe,
I saw it, but I've been too swamped to really read it. I'll try to carve
out some time this afternoon.
No urgency on my part. More something to fix for 7.5
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) In development, expected within the next two versions. Currently we have
non-SQL-standard recursion by several methods.
12) No
13) Not sure.
14) Yes
15) I think so.
Feedback, please!
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Greg,
Please don't confuse the issue by throwing Max() and Count() into the same
basket.
When on earth is that post of mine from? Seems like it's several months, if
not a couple of years, old.
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Sad,
what are perfomance difference bitween
a) update t1 set f1 = 'x', f2 = 'y';
b) update t1 set f1 = 'x', f2 = f2;
c) update t1 set f1 = 'x';
?
Not a lot. Why don't you try it?
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you've created your DOMAIN, based on the TEXT type, you can overload the
input and output functions to format correctly. Beware, though: input
output functions pretty much have to be written in C.
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, as a database user, query the source
code for functions I don't have permissions on?This seems like an easy
adjustment to the system tables, if so.
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DBA powers without being the superuser, and deny them direct
access to the pg_proc table. This would be a real PITA, though.
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a transaction across multiple
servers/databases, it's under development and may be released with version
7.5. Or later.
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We're working on something, but nothing's up yet. In the meantime, use the
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relational
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