Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Startup preferences

2013-06-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
:) Stef On Jun 24, 2013, at 4:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Cool! Thanks Stef. I just add an update in the blog post mentioning the chapter pdf :) On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi guys I realised

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30217

2013-06-24 Thread Marcus Denker
30217 - 10972 Tabs example broken https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10972 10996 Same category for = messages https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10996 10997 Some typos in StartupPreferences + updating comments https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10997

[Pharo-dev] MonticelloConfigurations Package

2013-06-24 Thread Camillo Bruni
Has anybody a clue why there is a MonticelloConfigurations but it is not merged with the latest version in the Pharo30 repository? this looks a bit strange to me...

Re: [Pharo-dev] why so many processes are running at startup time?

2013-06-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Igor, On 21 Jun 2013, at 13:27, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the only thing i hate in this code is references to many different classes. These processes actually represent various basic services of the system. so i would prefer that these services register themselves

Re: [Pharo-dev] Object #is:

2013-06-24 Thread Henrik Johansen
On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Just remove it :) Doru Alternatively, start using it, and remove the rest of the is* methods on Object, which was the initial intent :P Of course, there's a tradeoff between locality of implementation and discoverability with (default)

[Pharo-dev] [regression reporter]regression occurred

2013-06-24 Thread no-reply
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-2-Validation/./label=mac/257/ 1 regressions found. Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testObsoleteClasses

Re: [Pharo-dev] Metacello-ToolBox-dkh.131.mcz missing on smalltalkhub?

2013-06-24 Thread Nicolas Petton
yes, it should be :) On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Nicolas told me that he spent a day last week fixing some smalltalkhub bugs. May be this is one is part of it. On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Object #is:

2013-06-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I never liked it, so I vote for removal :) On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: Just remove it :) Doru Alternatively, start using it, and remove the rest of the is* methods on Object,

[Pharo-dev] Can't add a class-side instvar.

2013-06-24 Thread Martin Dias
Hi I reported this issue some time ago*, and is still reproducible in 30217. 1) open Nautilus 2) select any class 3) go class-side 4) add a variable you will get a compilation error. Any idea? *: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10734/Can-t-add-class-side-instance-variables Martín

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can't add a class-side instvar.

2013-06-24 Thread Martin Dias
this last step was missing: 5) accept On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I reported this issue some time ago*, and is still reproducible in 30217. 1) open Nautilus 2) select any class 3) go class-side 4) add a variable you will get a compilation

[Pharo-dev] Request to update Seaside build

2013-06-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Camillo, I think you set up the Seaside contrib build. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Seaside/47/PHARO=20,SEASIDE_VERSION=30,VERSION=stable,VM=vm/console I noticed that it does not contain a Zn adaptor. Could you please also do a Zn update and an install of the adaptor ? ./pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub url

2013-06-24 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Currently copying and pasting a smalltalkhub link in a .tex file does not make Latex happy. It complains about the non-letter characters Alexandre On 23 Jun 2013, at 05:54, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-06-23, at 00:50, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub url

2013-06-24 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-06-24, at 14:03, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Currently copying and pasting a smalltalkhub link in a .tex file does not make Latex happy. It complains about the non-letter characters then use latex escaping:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Request to update Seaside build

2013-06-24 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-06-24, at 13:26, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Camillo, I think you set up the Seaside contrib build. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Seaside/47/PHARO=20,SEASIDE_VERSION=30,VERSION=stable,VM=vm/console I noticed that it does not contain a Zn adaptor.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Request to update Seaside build

2013-06-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 24 Jun 2013, at 14:16, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-06-24, at 13:26, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Camillo, I think you set up the Seaside contrib build.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Request to update Seaside build

2013-06-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 24 Jun 2013, at 16:01, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: --groups=Core,Tests,Seaside will do AFAIK :) I don't think so. There is a double dispatch at MetacelloMCVersion#load: that works on Collection or String. But in the String case, the string is just wrapped in an Array,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cloud Hosting why/when?

2013-06-24 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Another issue is, at least in the EU, the Data Protection Directive. AFAIK no cloud provider from the US or with US ownership can currently comply with that. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cloud Hosting why/when?

2013-06-24 Thread Steven Baker
I've had quite a lot of experience helping teams who use both cloud-based and physical-server hosting. The promise of the cloud is that you can start/stop servers to meet dynamic demand. In the simple case, run ten servers during the day in your timezone, and only one at night to keep the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cloud Hosting why/when?

2013-06-24 Thread Sabine Knöfel
Amazon has a datacenter in ireland. Sabine Am 24.06.2013 16:36 schrieb Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl: Another issue is, at least in the EU, the Data Protection Directive. AFAIK no cloud provider from the US or with US ownership can currently comply with that. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cloud Hosting why/when?

2013-06-24 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi Steven, Thanks for the insights, very interesting. It is good to know that people with your profile are on this mailing list. What is your take on persistency and virtual hardware ? The performance difference between say Postgresql running on real hardware vs on ec2+ebs is challenging to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cloud Hosting why/when?

2013-06-24 Thread James Foster
Do Amazon's data centers outside the US qualify for EU usage? On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Another issue is, at least in the EU, the Data Protection Directive. AFAIK no cloud provider from the US or with US ownership can currently comply with that.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Object #is:

2013-06-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
But I hate more isPlague in Object. Stef On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: I never liked it, so I vote for removal :) On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On Jun 23, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Tudor Girba

Re: [Pharo-dev] Object #is:

2013-06-24 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-06-24, at 18:41, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: But I hate more isPlague in Object. I think that plage mostly arises when people do not like to use Visitors / DoubleDispatch. Conceptually the #is: message IS exactly the same, instead of doing a dynamic dispatch

Re: [Pharo-dev] Object #is:

2013-06-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
the isBlah is not optimal now it is just there and we cannot rewrite everything. I still think that is: is a nice way to kill some of the isPlague in Object. Stef But I hate more isPlague in Object. I think that plage mostly arises when people do not like to use Visitors /