Hi Mariano,
it is probably a bug in the way the changes are computed: in MC usually,
if the timestamp of a method changes, then this is a change, even if the
source code are exactly the same... No need to search for a missing end
of line character :).
I have been pushing for integration of
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Hi guys,
I'm working on a new release of smalltalkhub. I will also check what is
making it crash and monitor the website.
I think I will also move the service to Inria infrastructure in the
short future.
Cheers,
Nico
Mariano Martinez Peck writes:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Stéphane
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What would be cool is to have a kind of static mirror for all the mcz's so
that we can go there in case of trouble.
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Am 13.11.2013 um 10:59 schrieb p...@highoctane.be:
What would be cool is to have a kind of static mirror for all the mcz's so
that we can go there in case of trouble.
I didn’t look at the architecture of smalltalkhub. I only know everything is
put into mongo and I can imagine the rationale
At the moment, Pillar assumes that one file is one chapter. When generating
PDF, an index .tex file is required to construct the overall book with table
of contents and others such elements.
As far as I see, in HTML, there is no possibility of generating this
Is there a plan to
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
At the moment, Pillar assumes that one file is one chapter. When
generating PDF, an index .tex file is required to construct the overall
book with table of contents and others such elements.
As far as
On 12 nov. 2013, at 23:54, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Currently the idea is to put the source file as a compressed AST in the
image.
The status is:
- standard AST is 300Mb for the whole image, which is too much
- standard AST with nodes shared between
Very exciting developments.
How would you keep sources and changes segregated BTW? (if we can still
call them like that).
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On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
At the moment, Pillar assumes that one file is one chapter. When generating
PDF, an index .tex file is required to construct
Am 12.11.2013 um 13:53 schrieb Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl:
Just try with .44
Thanks very much Stephan, looks pretty good for me.
Norbert
Anyway, even if at the end it takes more memory than the current source file,
we should not forget that having persistant ASTs that you can freely annotate
brings far more than compression, it opens *many* doors :)
The annotations on the nodes would take memory too. Well, at least for the
Hi,
I have some questions:
1/ Before the removal of morphic dependencies in spec, I used aNode
selectedNode parentNode item to get the parent of the selected item. What is
the new way to do that?
2/ I also defined specific nodes for a Tree model. These nodes overrode the
childrenItems
On 13 Nov 2013, at 12:02, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
Very exciting developments.
How would you keep sources and changes segregated BTW? (if we can still
call them like that).
changes are modelled by Martin’s system (EPICEA).
Marcus
Ben
On 13 Nov 2013, at 12:43, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr
wrote:
Hi,
I have some questions:
1/ Before the removal of morphic dependencies in spec, I used aNode
selectedNode parentNode item to get the parent of the selected item. What is
the new way to do that?
Stef, what is the advantages of writing it in Pier compared to markdown ?
Ben
I doubt it is related to Athens. I think it is initialization problem.
If morph's extent depends on external factors, you should properly
initialize them
before computing it.
It could be that you calling #checkSession before.. which leads to DNU,
because no extent can be computed at given point
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 13 Nov 2013, at 03:08, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Sven,
I was seeing your code of ZnFileSystemUtils ... yes... I probably need
the same...
but I miss the other subclass ;) that
On 13 nov. 2013, at 14:21, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Hi!
Is there a way to get notified when fields are accessed?
That would be awesome
You can use the current reflectivity prototype. It's on RMoD CI:
https://ci.inria.fr/rmod/job/Reflectivity/
It should look like
2 cents.
just want to make a note, it is important to preserve original text
(yes i am talking about formatting, spacing, tabs etc)..
because without it i can easily imagine you can raise compression ration to
the skies..
but as to me the original text is important part of game.
On 13 November
On 13 Nov 2013, at 14:44, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2013-11-13, at 14:42, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 nov. 2013, at 14:21, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Hi!
Is there a way to get notified when fields are accessed?
That
Yes, a Wrapper would provide the legacy API.
And yes, the name of a stream should better not be part of the API.
Most stream don't have a name, and adding such API adds all sort of
un-needed complexity.
It's an internal detail that can eventually help for reporting error if
accessible, but
I know nothing about Xtreams but, IMO, this obsession with sterility
borders on mental illness.
All sort of un-needed complexity? That's overstating it a bit,
don't you think?
So you must really feel stressed that ALL Object's, in fact, have a
#name, huh? I admit this seems to push the limits
Igor Stasenko wrote
PaError Pa_OpenDefaultStream(NBExternalAddress * stream ... )
then your call site will look like following:
streamHandle := NBExternalAddress new.
Okay, one step closer. I somewhat randomly guessed to use NBExternalAddress,
but didn't have the correct thing in the
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Date: 2013/11/13
Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] In-memory FileSystem write streams not being
polymorphic
The long answer is simple: the more responsibility you put in Stream, the
more complexity you get.
Just forgot to add this reductio ad absurdum:
I suggest Object ^'John Doe', this is a relatively current name, so it
shouldn't hurt.
2013/11/13 Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com
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I give up.
Stef
On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com
wrote:
Stef, what is the advantages of writing it in Pier compared to markdown ?
Ben
do it in whatever you want but do not ask me to edit it nor to put it in our
book.
Stef
On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com
wrote:
Stef, what is the advantages of writing it in Pier compared to markdown ?
Ben
do you really think that I insist of using pier syntax because
A- I want to lose my time
B- this is for my ego?
C- because I'm funny
D- ...
No seriously?
If you want to get an answer read the thread that yuri raised a while ago.
Because we already discussed
What is the point of this folder?
Do you expect us to write documentation there?
Why do you systematically are again pier? especially when I wrote successfully
the seaside book with it
and so far the only book I saw using markdown are not book?
May be I should go back to write in plain latex
On 13 November 2013 16:48, Chris Muller asquea...@gmail.com wrote:
I know nothing about Xtreams but, IMO, this obsession with sterility
borders on mental illness.
All sort of un-needed complexity? That's overstating it a bit,
don't you think?
So you must really feel stressed that ALL
Thanks for discussing this issue. This is really interesting!
Alexandre
On Nov 13, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 nov. 2013, at 15:18, Andrei Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.com wrote:
YourClass methods do: [ :method |
method ast
It was a real question, and it feels like you overreacted the answer …
To me, markdown or pier is a new syntax to learn so I am asking …
To me, doing Pier because you do or because you said to is no really an
argument.
Then I am open to a real answer but I also see that markdown is integrated
On 13 Nov 2013, at 19:59, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote:
It was a real question, and it feels like you overreacted the answer …
To me, markdown or pier is a new syntax to learn so I am asking …
To me, doing Pier because you do or because you said to is no really an
Exactly, every specialized stream has its specialized API and/or
specialized implementation.
File streams don't even have a name, because they need not to.
You can browse XTFileReadStream and XTFileWriteStream, you won't find such
thing.
The file has a name, the stream does not need any.
Before
On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:05, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 13 Nov 2013, at 19:59, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com
wrote:
It was a real question, and it feels like you overreacted the answer …
To me, markdown or pier is a new syntax to learn so I am asking …
Why not generating markdown code from pier code?
If the whole problem is exposure on the web. Someone has considered pdf2html or
latex2html? Maybe my question is naive, I do not know.
On some point, i have tried to generate the roassal documentation from the
Roassal Help, but it makes the
Anyway, even if at the end it takes more memory than the current source
file, we should not forget that having persistant ASTs that you can freely
annotate brings far more than compression, it opens *many* doors :)
The annotations on the nodes would take memory too. Well, at least for the
On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:22, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote:
On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:05, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 13 Nov 2013, at 19:59, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com
wrote:
It was a real question, and it feels like you overreacted
On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:22, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Why not generating markdown code from pier code?
If the whole problem is exposure on the web. Someone has considered pdf2html
or latex2html? Maybe my question is naive, I do not know.
It is not silly, and yes it could
So read the thread that yuriy rasied last week
my sumarry
- write in pier
publish in latex, html, markdong
- too many variation of markdown
- do not want to ask in haskell, ruby… to extend libraries
- markdown does not support references and other
On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Why not generating markdown code from pier code?
If the whole problem is exposure on the web. Someone has considered pdf2html
or latex2html? Maybe my question is naive, I do not know.
this is planned.
Now I can
On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Why not generating markdown code from pier code?
If the whole problem is exposure on the web. Someone has considered pdf2html
or latex2html?
I did = suicidal tendencies.
The results looks like shit.
I did not try
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Nicolas Cellier
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote:
Exactly, every specialized stream has its specialized API and/or specialized
implementation.
File streams don't even have a name, because they need not to.
You can browse XTFileReadStream and
Stephane I think you need to sit down and write the Guidelines for Pharo
Documentation, explaining the tools, the workflow, the goals, the
principles and most importantly where documentation can be found. Post it
on pharo website. This way you will save a lot of time from answering
questions here
It would be completely silly to have class comments in MD (no matter how cool
this would be) _and_ *not* be able to have Nautilus parse/render them, with
active links, etc…
With Athens inside the image we will use the pier parser to generate a document
tree and render it inside the image.
I will write and send a proposal to the list. Good idea.
Stef
Stephane I think you need to sit down and write the Guidelines for Pharo
Documentation, explaining the tools, the workflow, the goals, the principles
and most importantly where documentation can be found. Post it on pharo
thanks for this discussion it is interesting.
I like small api fully implemented vs large and bogus ones
Stef
On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Nicolas Cellier
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote:
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Hi!
Is there a way to get notified when fields are accessed?
That would be awesome
You can use the current reflectivity prototype. It's on RMoD CI:
https://ci.inria.fr/rmod/job/Reflectivity/
It should look like something like that:
YourClass methods do: [ :method |
method ast
Chris,
I have to completely disagree.
The idea of breaking a complex object into simpler parts is not just
theories and extremism.
Assigning several roles to an object is sometimes convenient for a start,
but generally does scale very badly.
It's a collective experience driven by pragmatic
Of course, since this is a question of style, all was invented way before
the computer era :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonymy#Synecdoche
2013/11/13 Chris Muller asquea...@gmail.com
These are really excellent arguments, Nicolas. Good discussion.
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM,
It would be completely silly to have class comments in MD (no matter how
cool this would be) _and_ *not* be able to have Nautilus parse/render them,
with active links, etc…
With Athens inside the image we will use the pier parser to generate a
document tree and render it inside the
On Nov 14, 2013, at 1:03 AM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:40, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
So read the thread that yuriy rasied last week
my sumarry
- write in pier
publish in latex, html, markdong
Hi,
Thanks for looking into this.
However, as I wrote in the issue, the fix does not work. There are still
problems. I reopened the issue.
Cheers,
Doru
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I added a slice and a comment here:
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