Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 6a62aa: 30684

2014-01-11 Thread Marcus Denker
On 10 Jan 2014, at 22:13, GitHub nore...@github.com wrote: Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 6a62aa857c7610ef434cda338c72ee5bdd0c0919 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/6a62aa857c7610ef434cda338c72ee5bdd0c0919

Re: [Pharo-dev] RoassalExploraBuilder: interactive visual exploration of data structures.

2014-01-11 Thread Marcus Denker
On 10 Jan 2014, at 22:59, Sergio Maass sergio.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody! I'm a Pharo newcomer and I'm currently working on a view builder for Roassal (http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ObjectProfile/Roassal). The idea of the builder is to allow the user to explore any data

[Pharo-dev] Cannot install XMLWriter from Configuration browser

2014-01-11 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
When I try to install the XMLWriter framework by means of the Configuration browser I'll always get errors. This happens on the latest Pharo-3.0 as well as on Pharo-2.0. In Pharo-3.0 the top of PharoDebug.log is: THERE_BE_DRAGONS_HERE Error: Could not access

[Pharo-dev] Pharo 3 bugs on Linux with openWorldWithSpec?

2014-01-11 Thread kmo
I've come across two weird bugs (or at least strange effects) when using OpenWorldWithSpec. I'm not sure whether they are genuine bugs or it's just the way I've coded. I'm using the latest Pharo 3 on Ubuntu 13.10. I have a simple ComposableModel consisting of a TreeModel and a LabelModel which

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-11 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30685 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] d81889: 30685

2014-01-11 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: d818897ff0f30a9dcbcd24dd69bf78001413f510 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/d818897ff0f30a9dcbcd24dd69bf78001413f510 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cannot install XMLWriter from Configuration browser

2014-01-11 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Andreas, try it again - there was a newer config in http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/XMLWriter that I copied now into MetaRepoForPharo20 and MetaRepoForPharo30 to satisfy the config browser. I tried in clean Pharo 2.0 and clean Pharo 3.0, loads and all test are green. Have fun T.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-11 Thread btc
Igor Stasenko wrote: and guess what i currently working on? OSWindow interface, which will allow us to control creating of windows and managing them from the image, and handling the events. OSWindow sounds really exciting. Perhaps it will help facilitate multi-monitor support? cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 11 January 2014 15:20, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Igor Stasenko wrote: and guess what i currently working on? OSWindow interface, which will allow us to control creating of windows and managing them from the image, and handling the events. OSWindow sounds really exciting. Perhaps it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 not responding to mouse or keyboard after launch

2014-01-11 Thread Martin McClure
On 01/11/2014 12:17 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: Didn't tried myself but there is a tracing library for X called xscope. Is not included by default in most distros. http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/app/xscope-1.4.tar.gz Don't bother with xev, does not capture clicks inside

[Pharo-dev] Can we install packages like in pip or gem?

2014-01-11 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Can we install packages like this? $ pharo config NeoCSV INIFile OSProcess Pharo.image That would install stable versions from default repository for pharo image in current working directory in headless mode, save and quit. Cheers, Hernán

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 not responding to mouse or keyboard after launch

2014-01-11 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014/1/11 Martin McClure mar...@hand2mouse.com On 01/11/2014 12:17 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: Didn't tried myself but there is a tracing library for X called xscope. Is not included by default in most distros. http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/app/xscope-1.4.tar.gz

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] The last test failing...

2014-01-11 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
That is a great catch, thanks for the investigation, it requires somebody combining multi platform skills to fix this, there are not many of them ;-) So I guess we can try to re-enable the test... On 11 Jan 2014, at 17:48, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Marcus Denker wrote: On 09 Jan 2014, at

Re: [Pharo-dev] NativeBoost unloading?

2014-01-11 Thread Pavel Krivanek
To be able to remove NativeBoost we must integrate patch like this: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12624/make-image-startup-independent-on-NativeBoost This is the main code for NB unloading: | remove | remove := #('Athens-Cairo' 'Athens-PangoCairo' 'NativeBoost-Tests' 'NativeBoost-Examples'

Re: [Pharo-dev] compiler compile vs compiler translate (issue 12442)

2014-01-11 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014/1/11 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com that could work, except that it will change the default behavior for compilation, and raise exception in cases if you wanna silently load code etc, which is unwanted. i am also not sure the implementation of #translate is sound: translate [

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 not responding to mouse or keyboard after launch

2014-01-11 Thread Martin McClure
On 01/11/2014 08:55 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: This instructions are very good: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm I build my own vm because I am using a rather old ubuntu version (10.04) and the current vm does not work with my glibc version. Feel free to ask if you have any questions

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf on ubuntu linux

2014-01-11 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi Michael, sounds good but what script do you mean I should edit? I mean, all I'm seen is that wget and curl It's a bug in the hosted scripts? sebastian o/ On Jan 11, 2014, at 2:26 AM, Michael J. Forster m...@sharedlogic.ca wrote: On 14-01-10 07:54 PM, Sebastian Sastre wrote: Hi

Re: [Pharo-dev] CI server account creation

2014-01-11 Thread Alfredo Sanzo
Hi! Sorry for bothering you again. My account was joined to Pharo-Contribution but the link https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/all/newJob is not working. (This is the link that appears when I click on New Job here). Does it have to do with Permissions? I don't know if what Christophe

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can we install packages like in pip or gem?

2014-01-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
hi, as Sven say, you can do something like this: ./pharo Pharo.image config filetree://repository/mc ConfigurationOfSomething --install=baseline just one for line, because we do not have a centralised repository (yet) and because what we expect is that you do your own

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf on ubuntu linux

2014-01-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
most probably :( I will check tomorrow and provide a fix. Esteban On 11 Jan 2014, at 20:16, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi Michael, sounds good but what script do you mean I should edit? I mean, all I'm seen is that wget and curl It's a bug in the hosted

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf on ubuntu linux

2014-01-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
but I wonder why it does not fail for more people (me included)… we use a lot linux (for ci, etc.). Esteban On 11 Jan 2014, at 23:29, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: most probably :( I will check tomorrow and provide a fix. Esteban On 11 Jan 2014, at 20:16, Sebastian

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can we install packages like in pip or gem?

2014-01-11 Thread dimitris chloupis
Technically there is the Configuration Browser that allow for single click installs.  Which I think is the most close to pip. Its not hard to implement this kind stuff. I just don't like command lines/terminals. A good reason to pick Pharo :D  On Saturday, 11 January 2014, 23:52, Esteban

[Pharo-dev] StHub ?

2014-01-11 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
I saw StHub acting not 100% normally just now, but it seems to be recovering. Maybe someone should have a quick look to see if everything is really OK.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-11 Thread Chris Muller
I finally read this whole thread. I don't normally get involved in Pharo discussions but, I can't help to say: Igor is 100% right, and his best rationale why at the beginning: == at the end, it is just silly: the point is that i am always sure about things i do, when interacting with my

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 not responding to mouse or keyboard after launch

2014-01-11 Thread Martin McClure
On 01/11/2014 10:21 AM, Martin McClure wrote: On 01/11/2014 08:55 AM, Nicolai Hess wrote: This instructions are very good: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm I build my own vm because I am using a rather old ubuntu version (10.04) and the current vm does not work with my glibc

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 not responding to mouse or keyboard after launch

2014-01-11 Thread Martin McClure
On 01/11/2014 12:17 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: Didn't tried myself but there is a tracing library for X called xscope. Is not included by default in most distros. http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/app/xscope-1.4.tar.gz Don't bother with xev, does not capture clicks inside

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 not responding to mouse or keyboard after launch

2014-01-11 Thread Martin McClure
Still completely unable to run any Pharo on my main development machine. I tried running with --trace. It would appear that no Smalltalk is being run on mouse clicks or on keystrokes, with the exception of Alt-., which generates the output shown below. Regards, -Martin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-11 Thread Igor Stasenko
i have an impression, that people simply don't understand the function of cmd-l, and how convenient it is, especially when debugging: in debugger i more often operate with method's source pane than inspectors: i simply select the subexpression i wanting to inspect and then press Cmd-P which

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you want to accept???????? Discard???????

2014-01-11 Thread Martin McClure
Both saving changes and cancelling changes should be easy to do, without confirmation. They are both too common an action to slow down in this way. However, *both* actions should be undo-able. Regards, -Martin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 not responding to mouse or keyboard after launch

2014-01-11 Thread J.F. Rick
Try just hitting Alt without anything else. That has worked for me on Linux. Jeff On Saturday, January 11, 2014, Martin McClure wrote: On 01/10/2014 09:15 PM, Martin McClure wrote: I saw this a time or two in Pharo 2.0, and now I've seen it in Pharo 3.0 -- I launch my working image and all

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 not responding to mouse or keyboard after launch

2014-01-11 Thread Martin McClure
On 01/11/2014 06:26 PM, J.F. Rick wrote: Try just hitting Alt without anything else. That has worked for me on Linux. Thanks for the suggestion. Hitting Alt alone doesn't seem to do anything either. I'm beginning to suspect that delays are not expiring at the OS level -- I'll be getting

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 not responding to mouse or keyboard after launch

2014-01-11 Thread Andres Valloud
Somewhat related only, but FYI something I've noticed with Cog VMs is that if you bump the computer clock forward by e.g. 30 seconds then Cuis remains frozen for 30 seconds. Under the assumption that Cuis and Pharo are close enough, and considering that alt+. does not bring up a debugger

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf on ubuntu linux

2014-01-11 Thread Michael J. Forster
On 14-01-11 04:34 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: but I wonder why it does not fail for more people (me included)… we use a lot linux (for ci, etc.). Esteban [...] Like so many corners of Unix/Linux/Darwin, the design of mktemp(3) permits too many arbitrary and incompatible implementations.

Re: [Pharo-dev] CI server account creation

2014-01-11 Thread Alfredo Sanzo
Oh, I tried again and this time it worked. I just refreshed the page, it asked for my user (as the session had timeouted) and then I got to the Job name choosing screen. Thanks in advance if someone did something. If not, sorry for the mail. :) Cordially, Alfredo 2014/1/11 Alfredo Sanzo