Re: [Pharo-dev] Support for git in Pharo

2014-03-07 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 06/03/2014 17:30, Max Leske a écrit : That is only partly true: - packs will be generated when objects are transferred over the network (this may be partial packs) - packs can be force generated by using ‘git gc’ - packs will be periodically created / updated to reduce size on disk Are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Support for git in Pharo

2014-03-07 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 06/03/2014 23:01, Max Leske a écrit : On 06.03.2014, at 22:14, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com mailto:eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: the tail wags the dog. if the diff facilities in things like git were well-designed they'd be pluggable and allow one to parse files into meaningful

Re: [Pharo-dev] Support for git in Pharo

2014-03-07 Thread Max Leske
On 07.03.2014, at 08:38, Pharo4Stef pharo4s...@free.fr wrote: I hope that somebody will have a look at the newspeak library that abstract from the back-end storage because this is an interesting idea. Noted. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Dale Henrichs

Re: [Pharo-dev] Support for git in Pharo

2014-03-07 Thread Max Leske
On 07.03.2014, at 09:01, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: Le 06/03/2014 17:30, Max Leske a écrit : That is only partly true: - packs will be generated when objects are transferred over the network (this may be partial packs) - packs can be force generated by using ‘git

Re: [Pharo-dev] Support for git in Pharo

2014-03-07 Thread Max Leske
On 07.03.2014, at 09:08, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: Le 06/03/2014 23:01, Max Leske a écrit : On 06.03.2014, at 22:14, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com mailto:eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: the tail wags the dog. if the diff facilities in things like git were

Re: [Pharo-dev] Support for git in Pharo

2014-03-07 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 07/03/2014 09:25, Max Leske a écrit : I do have a version browser for that; but it plays with git at a bit too high level to be as powerfull as you describe. Is it on Smalltalkhub? I’d like to take a look if you let me. It's on github :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Support for git in Pharo

2014-03-07 Thread Max Leske
On 07.03.2014, at 09:37, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: Le 07/03/2014 09:25, Max Leske a écrit : I do have a version browser for that; but it plays with git at a bit too high level to be as powerfull as you describe. Is it on Smalltalkhub? I’d like to take a look if

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Fuel] Unexpected stream version 19

2014-03-07 Thread roberto.mine...@usi.ch
Hi Max, Thanks for the answer in the first place. Besides the “unexpected stream”, I am also experiencing some weird behavior about memory consumption. I have a folder with 70 fuel files, ranging from few kb to 40MB. Each file represents a development session with some of my objects inside. I

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-03-07 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30791 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 192736: 30791

2014-03-07 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 192736e9d416abc4b939b2492fc23e7d5d7e8232 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/192736e9d416abc4b939b2492fc23e7d5d7e8232 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] Is there some shared memory space?

2014-03-07 Thread roberto.mine...@usi.ch
Hi guys, I am experiencing a very strange problem that makes me think there is some shared memory problem with Pharo. Here are the steps that lead to the problem: - I have an image, I do something (i.e., materializing objects with Fuel) - I encounter a problem and a debugger pops up with a

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Fuel] Unexpected stream version 19

2014-03-07 Thread Max Leske
On 07.03.2014, at 11:25, roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote: Hi Max, Thanks for the answer in the first place. Besides the “unexpected stream”, I am also experiencing some weird behavior about memory consumption. I have a folder with 70 fuel files, ranging from few kb to 40MB. Each file

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there some shared memory space?

2014-03-07 Thread Max Leske
On 07.03.2014, at 11:55, roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote: Hi guys, I am experiencing a very strange problem that makes me think there is some shared memory problem with Pharo. Here are the steps that lead to the problem: - I have an image, I do something (i.e., materializing objects with

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there some shared memory space?

2014-03-07 Thread roberto.mine...@usi.ch
On Mar 7, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 07.03.2014, at 11:55, roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote: Hi guys, I am experiencing a very strange problem that makes me think there is some shared memory problem with Pharo. Here are the steps that lead to the problem:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] b3065f: 30792

2014-03-07 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: b3065f4660c4d171cd5b87f426cad38658f3ff64 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/b3065f4660c4d171cd5b87f426cad38658f3ff64 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-03-07 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30792 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened with petitmarkdown?

2014-03-07 Thread Clément Bera
Hey, Camillo moved all his repo on github and deleted the ones from smalltalkhub. 2014-03-07 8:10 GMT+01:00 Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com: Try on github On Mar 6, 2014 1:27 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Camillo, While fixing some ci builds, I noticed that at least

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened with petitmarkdown?

2014-03-07 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Clément wrote Camillo moved all his repo on github and deleted the ones from smalltalkhub. Hmm. I strongly prefer immutability for source code repositories. And a link to older/newer repos. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Support for git in Pharo

2014-03-07 Thread Dale Henrichs
Frank, Yeah, for browsing Smalltalk repos on github itself, I figured that an Amber app would be the way to go ...then you could have a real code browser with senders implementers, etc and the same code could run in a pharo image to browse unloaded repos from github or disk ... Just a simple

Re: [Pharo-dev] Support for git in Pharo

2014-03-07 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 07/03/2014 09:52, Max Leske a écrit : - And be able to rebuild package version history via the VCS history, as I do now in gitfiletree. Yes, that is something that should be possible. To be honest, those thoughts are a bit too far in the future at the moment. First, I want to have Git

[Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-07 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi everyone. This day I’ve attended Moose dojo and I’m pretty impressed with the possibilities of GTInspector. The one thing that I’ve noticed is that both GTInspactor and EyeInspector support custom inspections for objects. I’m wandering if we can come up with a common protocol to give an

[Pharo-dev] 12911 Tests-failing-in-fresh-image-MetacelloRepositorySqueakCommonTestCase

2014-03-07 Thread btc
Can someone with a Mac review... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/edit/12911/Tests-failing-in-fresh-image-MetacelloRepositorySqueakCommonTestCase Its low priority but also simple - just an update for three tests to deal with difference on Windows platform . cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-07 Thread Tudor Girba
We cannot do that because they are based on two radically different technologies. Doru On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi everyone. This day I've attended Moose dojo and I'm pretty impressed with the possibilities of GTInspector. The one thing that

Re: [Pharo-dev] TWM and 3.0: icons/themes, UpdatingMenuMorph

2014-03-07 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
philippeback wrote I am trying to get TWM to work in 3.0 ... Where Updating MenuMorph appears to be gone in 3.0 What am I supposed to use as a replacement? Glad you're working on it. I got stuck in the same place. The icon problem IIRC occurs in two TWM classes. Might I suggest (which you

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-07 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Yes, I know. And this is sad :( On 07 Mar 2014, at 18:45, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: We cannot do that because they are based on two radically different technologies. Doru On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi everyone. This day

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Why do you say that? You get two different solutions. GTInspector is around since almost four years and it was brewed in the more research-oriented Moose environment. At the moment, the Pharo solution adopted just the multiple presentations part. I agree that it is not at all as powerful as

Re: [Pharo-dev] TWM and 3.0: icons/themes, UpdatingMenuMorph

2014-03-07 Thread Pharo4Stef
As I was getting the class back in my 3.0 image, I noticed that drag and drop of classes to other packages led to a #MNU: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?13049 ... and deprecation warnings are nice but not with little windows all over... :-p Putting the UpdatingMenuMorph

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-07 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
I would like to have some idea, that object can provide a way to inspect itself (similar like every object should define how to print itself). And then all the browsers could use it. Because now I’m developing something and I’m implementing special inspections for my objects. Would be nice to

Re: [Pharo-dev] TWM and 3.0: icons/themes, UpdatingMenuMorph

2014-03-07 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Yes, I started sprinkling but was unhappy as some icons are internal to TWM and others are Smalltalk ui icons... I'll look into how I can make it nice. Phil On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.comwrote: philippeback wrote I am trying to get TWM to work in 3.0

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-07 Thread Tudor Girba
That is precisely what GT offers you. Just use that. Doru On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: I would like to have some idea, that object can provide a way to inspect itself (similar like every object should define how to print itself). And then all the

[Pharo-dev] Coral (again)

2014-03-07 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I would like to know where to look to get a valid/best version of Coral to use/work on. I am going to need to work in an assignment where there are a number of scripting things to do and I'd like to give Pharo a shot. I'd like to be able to use Coral, as I liked the video about it and how it

Re: [Pharo-dev] 12911 Tests-failing-in-fresh-image-MetacelloRepositorySqueakCommonTestCase

2014-03-07 Thread Max Leske
Works on OS X 10.9.2 Max On 07.03.2014, at 18:48, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Can someone with a Mac review... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/edit/12911/Tests-failing-in-fresh-image-MetacelloRepositorySqueakCommonTestCase Its low priority but also simple - just an update for three

Re: [Pharo-dev] Status of the VM?

2014-03-07 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Jan, On Mar 6, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Jan Vrany jan.vr...@fit.cvut.cz wrote: On 04/03/14 17:37, Eliot Miranda wrote: On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Jan Vrany jan.vr...@fit.cvut.cz mailto:jan.vr...@fit.cvut.cz wrote: Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but from my point of view

Re: [Pharo-dev] Coral (again)

2014-03-07 Thread Stephan Eggermont
I would be strongly interested in using Coral as a replacement for puppet/chef/salt Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-07 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Well I would hope that some kind of convergence would be possible in the future. Maybe some kind of abstract meta description like magritte, that different tools can use. On 07 Mar 2014, at 16:43, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi everyone. This day I’ve attended Moose dojo and

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-07 Thread Tudor Girba
I hope not. What are we trying to optimize? If you look closely at the GT work, you might notice that it is not just a tool, it's a whole new philosophy for coding. The EyeInspector picked only one aspect out of a whole. One high goal is to change programming such that the inspector + debugger

[Pharo-dev] Smalltalk tools: explore failing in 3.0

2014-03-07 Thread p...@highoctane.be
If I do inspect Smalltalk tools it works. But explore crashes. How is that? Phil

Re: [Pharo-dev] About inspectors

2014-03-07 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Doru, Where to look on your blog for a view on the essentials of this? I see http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/making-the-pharo-settings-browser-open-faster-with-gtinspector/for example. A video? I look at the blog and vids but it is a bit hard to find a basic demo to grasp things. TIA Phil