The good developers / expert users will not do what you state. The eclipse
debug, inspector, watches are very much part of a normal dev cycle in our
place with around 100 devs.
Even in Smalltalk I have seen less capable developers not exploiting even a
fraction of the capability Smalltalk has and
On 23 Apr 2014, at 19:30, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 23 Apr 2014, at 19:21, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 avr. 2014, at 19:00, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 23 Apr 2014, at 18:34, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Branch: refs/heads/3.0
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Commit: 6f764a96b114e9f78ea25bb8f7042e0d6fc47bd0
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/6f764a96b114e9f78ea25bb8f7042e0d6fc47bd0
Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org
Date:
Branch: refs/tags/30830
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
On 23 Apr 2014, at 23:27, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote:
Agreed, but can you confirm that TestRunner GUI shows all-green for yourself.
No, it is not all green, as to be expected:
11850 run, 11797 passes, 15 skipped, 43 expected failures, 6 failures, 4
errors, 0 unexpected passes
On 24 Apr 2014, at 04:50, Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:
Pharo and MOOSE CI seems to be in good condition now, but
pharo-contribution still broken apparently.
We are looking at this now...
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
The good developers / expert users will not do what you state. The eclipse
debug, inspector, watches are very much part of a normal dev cycle in our
place with around 100 devs.
This is not a problem of being expert or not. In languages like C/C++ you often
need
to deploy additional debug
You do not have to stop while it is running in production and you can
change and
inspect or even fix the program at will. With all the up's and downs of
this approach.
Visual Studio can do this with Edit and Continue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6J34B37wUc
So the world definitely starts to
Ok thank you Marcus !
Missing my continuous dose of working images ;-)
Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 24 avr. 2014 à 16:17, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr a écrit :
On 24 Apr 2014, at 04:50, Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com
wrote:
Pharo and MOOSE CI seems to be in good
I tried loading Roassal3d into 30830 using
Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'roassal3d'; package:
'ConfigurationOfRoassal3d'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal3d)
loadDevelopment
using both the VM linked at
http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/mac/Pharo-VM-mac-stable.zip
On 24 Apr 2014, at 12:12, Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok thank you Marcus !
Missing my continuous dose of working images ;-)
The slaves are online again (thanks to Damien Cassou).
But now we have the problem that in Pharo3, on load, the VM crashes for same
cases…
OK, so it crashes loading NBOpenGL-Core from
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/NBOpenGL/main.
The Pharo VM includes NB… right?
Cheers,
Henry
On 24 Apr 2014, at 12:52 , Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote:
I tried loading Roassal3d into 30830 using
Gofer new
On 24 Apr 2014, at 13:23, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote:
OK, so it crashes loading NBOpenGL-Core from
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/NBOpenGL/main.
The Pharo VM includes NB… right?
Yes!
Cheers,
Henry
On 24 Apr 2014, at 12:52 , Henrik Johansen
Hi pharoers,
I am trying to load Phratch in the latest Pharo3.0 Installer Mac
(image+vm), and Pharo crashes during the install.
It is easy to reproduce:
- Load the latest Pharo Installer for Mac
- Run this code:
---
Gofer it
url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/JLaval/Phratch/main'
With vm 337 and 30830 on Mac Mavericks 10.9.2
I can reproduce the crash by loading the ConfigurationOfForum and
then loading bleedingEdge.
crash.dmp
Description: Binary data
Stephan
On 24 avr. 2014, at 09:59, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 23 Apr 2014, at 19:30, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 23 Apr 2014, at 19:21, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 avr. 2014, at 19:00, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
On 24 Apr 2014, at 13:44, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi pharoers,
I am trying to load Phratch in the latest Pharo3.0 Installer Mac (image+vm),
and Pharo crashes during the install.
Yes, and I have no clue why.
Marcus
Kilon wrote:
Visual Studio can do this with Edit and Continue
I know - but still not comparable. Apples and oranges - you know ;)
In VS it works only to a certain extent and has same limits (mostly that in
static
languages nothing is so late bound as like in dynamic languages):
Edit and
Branch: refs/heads/3.0
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Commit: 38bca442b7123caa5ce7497b9f0df2f8d4f06420
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/38bca442b7123caa5ce7497b9f0df2f8d4f06420
Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org
Date:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 1:48 , Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 13:44, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi pharoers,
I am trying to load Phratch in the latest Pharo3.0 Installer Mac (image+vm),
and Pharo crashes during the install.
Yes, and I
Forum crashes on 30830 with 335, 336 and 337.
The crash is while showing 'Compiling...'
Stephan
Branch: refs/tags/30831
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
On 24 Apr 2014, at 13:46, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 avr. 2014, at 09:59, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 23 Apr 2014, at 19:30, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 23 Apr 2014, at 19:21, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com
Yes it looks like there is a bug in the slot class builder.
I also have a job failing since #30830
the stacktrace:
[0mLayoutEmptyScope(Object)error:
LayoutEmptyScope(LayoutAbstractScope)rebase:to:
LayoutClassScoperebase:to:
LayoutClassScoperebase:to:
LayoutClassScoperebase:to:
Hi Sean:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 02:49, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
Stefan Marr-3 wrote
First of all, I enabled public write access on the repository.
It doesn’t look like it has public write access.
Guess the error is between chair and screen. I probably forgot to save the
what is forum?
On 24 Apr 2014, at 13:58, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:
Forum crashes on 30830 with 335, 336 and 337.
The crash is while showing 'Compiling...'
Stephan
This seems to have worked: all image tests are green.
BUT: the Metacello Platformtests fail with a “should not happen” error.
Did you run the postscript?
Smalltalk allClassesDo: [ :c | c superclass addSubclass: c ]
No, but if that would be inconsistent, there is a test that fails…
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
I will push to sthub tomorrow morning.
Done. You should now be able to insert and verify your own file into the
following:
Gofer it
smalltalkhubUser: 'SeanDeNigris' project: 'Superuser';
configuration;
loadStable.
#inform: success or signal an
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:04, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr
wrote:
Yes it looks like there is a bug in the slot class builder.
I also have a job failing since #30830
Yes, this is already here:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:21, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
GitHub wrote
Log Message:
---
30830
http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30830.zip
Which issues did this include?
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13028/
I integrated it with a .cs as it did not work as a
Branch: refs/tags/30832
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Branch: refs/heads/3.0
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Commit: d3c35d16796a121d571ddf0f3f0cf6b3a2b6110d
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/d3c35d16796a121d571ddf0f3f0cf6b3a2b6110d
Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org
Date:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 2:21 , Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:04, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr
wrote:
Yes it looks like there is a bug in the slot class builder.
I also have a job failing since #30830
Yes, this is already here:
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
The problem with the linux slaves is fixed… things should get normal
again.
Thank you Marcus for taking care of all these boring, but crucial, details!
-
Cheers,
Sean
--
View this message in context:
Stefan Marr-3 wrote
Now it should be enabled.
Looks good, thanks!
-
Cheers,
Sean
--
View this message in context:
http://forum.world.st/Phexample-API-Change-Proposal-was-Phexample-Image-Destroying-Bug-tp4755787p4756229.html
Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at
On 24 avr. 2014, at 14:18, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
This seems to have worked: all image tests are green.
BUT: the Metacello Platformtests fail with a “should not happen” error.
Did you run the postscript?
Smalltalk allClassesDo: [ :c | c superclass addSubclass: c ]
On 24 avr. 2014, at 14:37, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 2:21 , Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:04, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr
wrote:
Yes it looks like there is a bug in the slot class
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:57, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 avr. 2014, at 14:37, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no
wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 2:21 , Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:04, Christophe Demarey
On 24 Apr 2014, at 2:24 , Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:21, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
GitHub wrote
Log Message:
---
30830
http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30830.zip
Which issues did this include?
Hi!
Just to say that I am happy to have nautilus. It works well even for details.
For example I selected all the methods of a class, and did a push up
refactoring. It works perfectly. I then selected all the method categories, and
do a remove all. No error !
Nautilus is cool :-)
Cheers,
Try the RB Rename for class names in a workspace and then, it will be less
cool.
Phil
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel
alexandre.ber...@me.comwrote:
Hi!
Just to say that I am happy to have nautilus. It works well even for
details. For example I selected all the methods of
Branch: refs/heads/3.0
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Commit: 05484b1f2be0a50410fbedea74a162bb59740f96
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/05484b1f2be0a50410fbedea74a162bb59740f96
Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org
Date:
Branch: refs/tags/30833
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:57, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 avr. 2014, at 14:37, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no
wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 2:21 , Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:04, Christophe Demarey
On 24 Apr 2014, at 3:19 , Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 2:24 , Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:21, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
GitHub wrote
Log Message:
---
30830
FYI: Forum is available in the config browser.
Interesting enough in a recent image Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30829
the ConfigurationOfForum is not visible in Versionner after loading the config
into the image
(although the class ConfigurationOfForum is there).
May be related to the slot class
Branch: refs/heads/3.0
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Commit: 7b27f80cb692f7d8e02b7ea26a51718ec07a9deb
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/7b27f80cb692f7d8e02b7ea26a51718ec07a9deb
Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org
Date:
Branch: refs/tags/30834
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
On 24 Apr 2014, at 16:26, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote:
FYI: Forum is available in the config browser.
Interesting enough in a recent image Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30829
the ConfigurationOfForum is not visible in Versionner after loading the
config into the image
(although the
Really beautiful!
I will take a look as soon as possible at the code. This is definitely a
candidate to be included in GT.
In the meantime, please just do not use a Gary background to show gray data.
Just use white.
Doru
--
www.tudorgirba.com
Every thing has its own flow.
On 24.04.2014,
Hi henryk
thanks for your feedback, we need more people looking at changes.
Stef
I will take a look as soon as possible at the code. This is definitely a
candidate to be included in GT.
Excellent!
In the meantime, please just do not use a Gary background to show gray data.
Just use white.
+1
Alexandre
Doru
--
www.tudorgirba.com
Every thing has its own
FYI: Forum is available in the config browser.
But does not load out of the box. Dependency to Glamour seems to
be missing.
I have a strange effect on my machines. I have a dedicated server and a lot of
virtual instances using LXC. The last few days I migrated most projects of our
projects from pharo2.0 to pharo3.0. And on the same time the images moved from
an ubuntu 12.04. system to a ubuntu 14.04 system. Looking
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.euwrote:
I am sorry, but I disagree.
Yes, technically, much of what we take for granted is partially possible
in most other languages, but it is often hard to use, an add-on, an
afterthought. But more important, Java
2014-04-24 20:44 GMT+02:00 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com:
Again, cc'ing vm-dev is courteous.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:58 AM, Camille Teruel
camille.ter...@gmail.comwrote:
Segfault!
Could it be due to #become: or #valueUnpreemptively ? (see
On 24 Apr 2014, at 22:13, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-04-24 20:44 GMT+02:00 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com:
Again, cc'ing vm-dev is courteous.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:58 AM, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com
wrote:
Segfault!
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 22:13, Nicolas Cellier
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-04-24 20:44 GMT+02:00 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com:
Again, cc'ing vm-dev is courteous.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at
2014-04-24 22:43 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com:
On 24 Apr 2014, at 22:13, Nicolas Cellier
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-04-24 20:44 GMT+02:00 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com:
Again, cc'ing vm-dev is courteous.
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:58 AM,
I think this fix is essential and should be applied before releasing Pharo
VM:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/pull/31
Those are optionals but would be nice to have:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/pull/32
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/pull/33
What % of CPU is it using?
My VM on idle state consumes about ~4-5% CPU.
Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-04-24 15:43 GMT-03:00 Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name:
I have a strange effect on my machines. I have a dedicated server and a lot
of virtual instances using LXC. The last few days I migrated
Eliot Miranda wrote:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Sven Van
Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu
wrote:
I
am sorry, but I disagree.
Yes, technically, much of what we take for granted is partially
possible in most other languages, but it is often hard to use, an
add-on, an
On 25 Apr 2014, at 01:19, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote:
What % of CPU is it using?
My VM on idle state consumes about ~4-5% CPU.
That is about what I am used to, here is a real view of an Amazon AWS EC2 Small
Instance running 4 Pharo VMs:
top - 05:25:09 up 413 days,
63 matches
Mail list logo
