Re: [Pharo-dev] CI Server still down...

2015-02-20 Thread Christophe Demarey
Le 20 févr. 2015 à 11:22, Tudor Girba a écrit : Thank you for keeping an eye on this. Just a note: while the servers being down can induce some frustration we should remember that INRIA is very kind to offer this support for our community. So, thanks for all the hard work that happens

Re: [Pharo-dev] I just crashed sthub

2015-02-20 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 19/02/15 14:31, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: is restored… but I couldn’t applied the change I wanted… maybe tomorrow :) On 19 Feb 2015, at 14:24, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Thank you Esteban. On 19 Feb 2015, at 14:18, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: is temporal

Re: [Pharo-dev] I just crashed sthub

2015-02-20 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 20 Feb 2015, at 12:21, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: On 19/02/15 14:31, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: is restored… but I couldn’t applied the change I wanted… maybe tomorrow :) On 19 Feb 2015, at 14:24, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Thank you Esteban. On 19

Re: [Pharo-dev] I just crashed sthub

2015-02-20 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 20/02/15 12:26, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: On 20 Feb 2015, at 12:21, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: In the last green build of the 3.0 SmalltalkHub image I cannot load your changes. Some compiler bug. I’m aware, fixing now. A, good. - ShTeamsHandlersearchTeamNamed: should

Re: [Pharo-dev] untypeable key combination

2015-02-20 Thread Marcus Denker
On 19 Feb 2015, at 10:19, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Fogbugz issue 14936 and slice in inbox After loading this slice, there are still many references to the (now) obsolete class KMUntypeableSingleKeyCombination. I tried to remove these references with the following code :

[Pharo-dev] CI Server still down...

2015-02-20 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, CI Servers are still down. Until they are up we can not do any integration nor run the automatic check on submitted things. Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] CI Server still down...

2015-02-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Thank you for keeping an eye on this. Just a note: while the servers being down can induce some frustration we should remember that INRIA is very kind to offer this support for our community. So, thanks for all the hard work that happens behind the scene! Cheers, Doru On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Peter Uhnák
However, reflecting all of this in the name, ComposableModel, makes it unclear what it is for. From Seamless Composition and Reuse of Customizable User Interfaces with Spec ( http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/archives/papers/Ryse13a-SCICO-Spec.pdf ) UI Element: an interactive graphical element

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Henrik Johansen
On 20 Feb 2015, at 12:23 , Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-02-19 23:24 GMT+01:00 Johan Fabry jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl mailto:jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl: The problem is that people are confused by the term Model, so they will also be confused by Logic. I want to remove the

Re: [Pharo-dev] [FIX]: Issue 4795: Horizontal wheel

2015-02-20 Thread Craig Latta
Bueller? I think the devs here are perhaps *slightly* more busy than the drooling teenagers in that scene... :) -C -- Craig Latta netjam.org +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) + 1 415 287 3547 (no SMS)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why was #asLegalSelector removed?

2015-02-20 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 19/02/15 18:43, Damien Pollet wrote: I think it would make sense to publish a configuration for DeprecationFinder in the configuration browser. Does it work on any Pharo image, or is it written on top of Moose ? I'm trying to see if it still runs atm. Looking good in a Moose 5.1. 50 MB of

[Pharo-dev] [jenkins] 30 issues for review

2015-02-20 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, People are busy submitting fixes and improvements.. we should not forget to give them feedback. There are a lot if issues that needs reviews… 6 where the monkey ran (or can not run): https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/45/Review and 26 waiting for the monkey that is down due to

[Pharo-dev] How to get rid of GT-Playground

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolai Hess
instances ? If you open a fresh image and change the setting to use the old workspace open a workspace and execute: GTPlayground allInstances size - 1 There is already one instance. I tried to get rid of this instance but I couldn't find a way. I think this instance is responsible for issue

[Pharo-dev] MCVersionInfo: 10% of the image

2015-02-20 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, The current Pharo4 contains *a lot* of MCVersionInfo instances. MCVersionInfo allInstances size 11095 The hold on to strings, Date, UUID… a lot of stuff. All in all, this is around 10% of the current image. If you do MCVersionInfo allInstances do: [ :each | each instVarNamed:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [FIX (Maybe ; ))]: Issue 14959: MC Hook for Default Credentials

2015-02-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
stepharo wrote I was thinking that we could use Author Ah, yes. That might be a good place. We have KeyChain in the image. I wonder what the status of that is. It seems like it was designed for this purpose... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why was #asLegalSelector removed?

2015-02-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
As you know, I love cleaning ;) But... stepharo wrote https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-workingRoadmaps/blob/master/StringCleaning.md What enlightenment am I supposed to gain from candidates for removal... asLegalSelector, and later Done: candidates for removal... asLegalSelector. I

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to get rid of GT-Playground

2015-02-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Interesting! I sometimes notice the phenomenon of image growing and I suspected it has to do with the playground/inspector. We should investigate a memory leak related to announcements. I will try to look into this. Could you open an issue? This is a must fix for Pharo 4. Cheers, Doru On

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why was #asLegalSelector removed?

2015-02-20 Thread stepharo
Damien I decided that living is about mistakes so I will not stress and continue to improve the platform. And from time to time I will do a mistake and we will fix it. I prefer to die because I have moved than because I feared to move because at the end I will die. Stef Le 19/2/15 18:43,

Re: [Pharo-dev] #fromFileNamed: seems too UNIX-y

2015-02-20 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Yes. But convenience and clean separation of responsibilities sometimes conflict (I mean, do all these object even have to know about files ?) On 20 Feb 2015, at 23:42, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Now that we have a beautiful File API, would it make sense to use real file

Re: [Pharo-dev] #fromFileNamed: seems too UNIX-y

2015-02-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote But convenience and clean separation of responsibilities sometimes conflict (I mean, do all these object even have to know about files ?) Good point! But what do we do? The logic is too complicated for users to roll-their-own... It would be nice to have a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Johan Fabry
On Feb 20, 2015, at 12:07, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote If the goal is avoiding confusion to data model classes... Do we even need Composable in the name? This is relevant from a where we came from standpoint, but to a new user, maybe it can

Re: [Pharo-dev] MCVersionInfo: 10% of the image

2015-02-20 Thread Eliot Miranda
Chris, didn't you do something about this in Squeak? It would be nice to keep consistent if possible... Eliot (phone) On Feb 20, 2015, at 6:41 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, The current Pharo4 contains *a lot* of MCVersionInfo instances. MCVersionInfo allInstances

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote If the goal is avoiding confusion to data model classes... Do we even need Composable in the name? This is relevant from a where we came from standpoint, but to a new user, maybe it can be documented without adding 10 characters to the class name... - Cheers,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec terminology: renaming some terms

2015-02-20 Thread Peter Uhnák
Do we even need Composable in the name? Why not just SpecModel or SpecUIModel? Btw there's also DynamicComposableModel.

Re: [Pharo-dev] development workflow for GTools (GToolkitCore)

2015-02-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-02-08 13:01 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi Nicolai, On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 14850 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14850 Integrate

Re: [Pharo-dev] [FIX]: Issue 4795: Horizontal wheel

2015-02-20 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
ccrraaiigg wrote Bueller? I think the devs here are perhaps *slightly* more busy than the drooling teenagers in that scene... :) Hopefully, our days with Smalltalk are more like borrowing the Ferrari for an adventure ;) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Action needed: Issue tracker at 684 issues

2015-02-20 Thread Marcus Denker
Hello, The issue tracker has an ever growing list of issues. We do a lot (e.g. last 7 days we closed 55), but nevertheless, as some point this is so much that issues are just not being acted on because there are so many. Therefore: - Please check *ALL* the issue that you submitted. Have they

Re: [Pharo-dev] development workflow for GTools (GToolkitCore)

2015-02-20 Thread Nicolai Hess
2015-02-08 13:01 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi Nicolai, On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 14850 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?14850 Integrate GTools #development From this version onwards the development version should be

Re: [Pharo-dev] MCVersionInfo: 10% of the image

2015-02-20 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 20/02/2015 15:41, Marcus Denker a écrit : Hi, The current Pharo4 contains *a lot* of MCVersionInfo instances. MCVersionInfo allInstances size 11095 The hold on to strings, Date, UUID… a lot of stuff. All in all, this is around 10% of the current image. If you do MCVersionInfo

Re: [Pharo-dev] MCVersionInfo: 10% of the image

2015-02-20 Thread Chris Muller
Chris, didn't you do something about this in Squeak? It would be nice to keep consistent if possible... Yes, but no one liked it because it employed the Proxy design-pattern and requires a become. Perhaps if I'd gotten it perfect the first time it'd have been better-received. But, I