Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to use Rubric in Nautilus ....

2015-05-14 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- done committed Cheers Alain On 14 May 2015, at 12:06, Alain Plantec alain.plan...@yahoo.com wrote: ahh, good remark :) the menu stuff is not finished. I do it now thanks Alain On 13 May 2015, at 18:09, Franck Warlouzet franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread J. Vuletich (mail lists)
Hi Alain, Quoting Alain Rastoul alf.mmm@gmail.com: Le 14/05/2015 02:08, J. Vuletich (mail lists) a écrit : A port of the code to Pharo is required, as Alain and Stef have shown. Besides, Cuis doesn't include support for Traits. I think your idea is very good, and I hope some Pharoer

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread Gareth Cox
Just for fun, from VisualAge Smalltalk 8.6 - Time millisecondsToRun: [1000 timesRepeat: [Transcript show: 'x']]. VisualAge Smalltalk 8.6 -- 3120ms

[Pharo-dev] Manifest class values - instance or class side

2015-05-14 Thread Kasper Osterbye
It is unclear if literal values in Manifest classes should be on the instance side or on the class side. demarey wrote in the package comments thread on May 6th: Data is stored in raw strings in methods (instance side) of the Manifest. However, when I look in the actual manifest classes, it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Testers needed! Re: Athens BitBlt bug?

2015-05-14 Thread Nicolai Hess
Thank you Ben, I think this is the information I was looking for. nicolai 2015-05-14 17:41 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: I can't follow all the details, but I dug up for a few references that might relate... * [Vm-dev] There might be a bug in Bitblt copyloop

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread stepharo
How you gonna ensure that, when only tool that you have is a completely single-minded (err.. threaded :) ) / thread unsafe Morphic in your hands, that is absolutely dangerous to use outside UI thread and recipe for disaster when fiddling with its state or interrupting it at non-safe point?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread Alain Rastoul
Le 14/05/2015 21:18, stepharo a écrit : Thanks alain for checking. I think that we can offer different implementations and let people pick the ones they like. My goal is to remove direct refer to Transcript from the image so that we can plug an implementation and in particular the merge of Doru

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread Alain Rastoul
Le 14/05/2015 21:18, stepharo a écrit : ah, also I saw that you were discussing about do-it in separate processes. that should be easy to implment IMHO (as a test menu option to start), with some side effects sure ... I already mentioned the effectiveProcess not maintained by the inspector

Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to use Rubric in Nautilus ....

2015-05-14 Thread stepharo
thanks Alain You rock :) When you visit us I would love to see if we could brainstorm on changs in Nautilus to remove the need for RubPluggable :) I would like to remove PluggableTextWithLimits and I would love also to deprecate TextMorph. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread stepharo
Thanks alain for checking. I think that we can offer different implementations and let people pick the ones they like. My goal is to remove direct refer to Transcript from the image so that we can plug an implementation and in particular the merge of Doru and Norbert/Mine loggers Stef Le

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread stepharo
thanks alain did you publish a slice attached to the ug entry? Le 11/5/15 20:54, Alain Rastoul a écrit : Le 10/05/2015 13:15, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : On 10 May 2015, at 13:10, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Why we cannot use the of Juan? you can type in it, make do it, etc.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread stepharo
Thanks Clement. I think that this is true that we should take care about all the hidden behavior (like creating repo and others). Stef Le 11/5/15 17:02, Clément Bera a écrit : 2015-05-11 13:06 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de mailto:nicolaih...@web.de: About the GTools, I

Re: [Pharo-dev] ctrl+a is seen as ctrl+home windows

2015-05-14 Thread Nicolai Hess
I added an issue: 15541 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15541 windows vm does not distinguish between ctrl+a and ctrl+home with a proposed solution: add $a-1 to the utf32Code field of the event struct, if the keyevent is a keystroke and the ctrl flag is set what do you think?

[Pharo-dev] Default package comment

2015-05-14 Thread Sergio Fedi
Hi guys, we are adding comments to packages and we would like a feedback from the community. What do you suggest for the default package comment?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread Ben Coman
Le 14/5/15 15:12, Alain Rastoul a écrit : Le 14/05/2015 02:08, J. Vuletich (mail lists) a écrit : A port of the code to Pharo is required, as Alain and Stef have shown. Besides, Cuis doesn't include support for Traits. I think your idea is very good, and I hope some Pharoer (Alain?) does

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread Tudor Girba
What Stef means is that ideally, we should no strive to not have code like: Transcript show: 'my event'. Instead, we should only log events (ideally, concrete classes like MyEvent) and if we want to see the textual representation of this, we just plug a Transcript interface to the logger. Cheers,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Cog VM problem?

2015-05-14 Thread Tobias Pape
Hi Eliot On 15.05.2015, at 02:07, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Raymond, yes, thanks. We have a regression in the code generator due to recent changes to #== compilation. We're working on it. I hope to have a fix soon. Apologies for the inconvenience. For

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread Tudor Girba
Pressed save too early. The infrastructures for doing that exist already in SystemLogger and Beacon, and we will merge these two and produce one common logging engine. However, one challenge that came out of the description of Clement is to show a partial representation of an event before the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing trait blow the method def in hierarchy

2015-05-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Ok, thanks Alexandre On May 14, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Camille camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 May 2015, at 11:46, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Any idea where the slowdown comes from? 20% makes it easily detectable It comes from the method resolution and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing trait blow the method def in hierarchy

2015-05-14 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Any idea where the slowdown comes from? 20% makes it easily detectable Alexandre Le 12 mai 2015 à 07:06, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com a écrit : Hi, I’ve noticed that if you install a trait on a class and a trait defines explicit requirement method, and this method is defined

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing trait blow the method def in hierarchy

2015-05-14 Thread Camille
On 14 May 2015, at 11:46, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Any idea where the slowdown comes from? 20% makes it easily detectable It comes from the method resolution and invocation in Object#explicitRequirement. Camille Alexandre Le 12 mai 2015 à 07:06, Yuriy

Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to use Rubric in Nautilus ....

2015-05-14 Thread Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev
---BeginMessage--- ahh, good remark :) the menu stuff is not finished. I do it now thanks Alain On 13 May 2015, at 18:09, Franck Warlouzet franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr wrote: Hi alain thanks a lot! This helps us a lot. We got nearly something working. We will produce a list of

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Screencast By a Ruby Guy

2015-05-14 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: On 12 May 2015, at 11:44, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 11 May 2015, at 23:49, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: