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2017-01-09 Thread GitHub
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2017-01-09 Thread GitHub
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Re: [Pharo-dev] happy and bold new year

2017-01-09 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, In my opinion, Pharo provides the strongest infrastructure for understanding a system from all technologies I have seen. So, if you say that Pharo is a bit "under featured in, then I think we are not referring to the same thing :). May I ask how you are using the inspector? For example: -

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2017-01-09 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/60341 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] ea0552: 60341

2017-01-09 Thread GitHub
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Re: [Pharo-dev] happy and bold new year

2017-01-09 Thread Hilaire
I know this path of understanding code while it is running (inspector or debugger), but it is still a tedious path, and I feel Pharo is a bit under featured on that specific department, therefore my question on Moose. Hilaire Le 09/01/2017 à 15:09, Tudor Girba a écrit : > That is why my advice

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-09 Thread Bernhard Pieber
No, this is not what I meant. Although it might be a useful variant once there is go back and go forward like in web browsers. For now ClySystemBrowser beDefaultBrowser does what I want. Thanks! Cheers, Bernhard > Am 09.01.2017 um 15:10 schrieb Denis Kudriashov : > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-09 Thread Denis Kudriashov
2017-01-09 13:02 GMT+01:00 Bernhard Pieber : > I just played a bit with Calypso. I love the possibility to easily show > the inherited methods. I would love to stay in a Calypso browser when I use > Cmd-b to browse classes referenced in method source. Maybe I misunderstood

Re: [Pharo-dev] happy and bold new year

2017-01-09 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Hilaire, GT is essentially a project that takes the relevant parts of Moose and make them applicable to plain Pharo. Pharo ships with only the core tools, but the complete configuration of GT also brings with it Roassal and a couple of other goodies. There are still more interesting things

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-09 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi Bernhard 2017-01-09 13:02 GMT+01:00 Bernhard Pieber : > Hi Denis, > > I just played a bit with Calypso. I love the possibility to easily show > the inherited methods. I would love to stay in a Calypso browser when I use > Cmd-b to browse classes referenced in method

[Pharo-dev] Which package includes GVGraphViz?

2017-01-09 Thread Bernhard Pieber
I just saw found the class DAGraphVizGenerator in Tool-DependencyAnalyser. It references a class GVGraphViz by name. What package do I have to load to get it? The GraphViz package in the Pharo Project Catalog does not use the GV prefix. Cheers, Bernhard

[Pharo-dev] NBMacShell still used in GraphViz

2017-01-09 Thread Bernhard Pieber
Happy New Year! The GraphViz project in the Pharo Project Catalog has the tag Pharo5.0 but still uses NBMacShell which seems to have been removed in Pharo 5. What is the right replacement for NBMacShell run: string in newer Pharo versions? Cheers, Bernhard

Re: [Pharo-dev] happy and bold new year

2017-01-09 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Phil, Indeed, I believe that losing site of meaning is a spectacular waste of opportunity. I often hear people arguing that it is hard to find meaning in a technology space, and as a consequence they also stop looking for it. In this situations, I tend to point people to the work of Viktor

Re: [Pharo-dev] happy and bold new year

2017-01-09 Thread Hilaire
Hello Doru, I am curious. Yesterday I had a look to MessageBrowser, and realize I understand nothing of it. I saw there is a mix of SpecXXX, models, Navigation browser, Announcement, etc, then I knew I will have to spend a lot of time browsing (multiple window again) to understand a bit how these

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

2017-01-09 Thread Bernhard Pieber
Hi Denis, I just played a bit with Calypso. I love the possibility to easily show the inherited methods. I would love to stay in a Calypso browser when I use Cmd-b to browse classes referenced in method source. Thanks for your contribution! Cheers, Bernhard > Am 27.12.2016 um 17:12 schrieb

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2017-01-09 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/60340 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] b18aad: 60340

2017-01-09 Thread GitHub
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Re: [Pharo-dev] happy and bold new year

2017-01-09 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 09.01.2017 um 11:11 schrieb philippe.b...@highoctane.be > : > > Doru, > > Wow. > > I have to say that in the face of other technologies there is often the force > that lures me back go them. But they do not have the same feel. This ability > to understand and

Re: [Pharo-dev] happy and bold new year

2017-01-09 Thread philippe.b...@highoctane.be
Doru, Wow. I have to say that in the face of other technologies there is often the force that lures me back go them. But they do not have the same feel. This ability to understand and be able to dig down is unmatched. I was reading this mail this morning and it echoes your point pretty nicely:

[Pharo-dev] happy and bold new year

2017-01-09 Thread Tudor Girba
Happy New Year, everyone! Over the last year, I went through a rather extensive tour and I directly exposed Moose, GT and Pharo to some 2000+ technical people through various sessions and trainings at conferences and companies. The tour will continue this year. Most of the sessions are not