Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-31 Thread Igor Stasenko
Guys, lets clear out the responsibilities: Athens, as a framework has nothing to do with resource management, because it is not responsibility of framework to know when/where to allocate or deallocate resources, this is responsibility of application to manage that. An Athens surface is resource, w

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-31 Thread Alexandre Bergel
> It's normal that external resources don't survive a snapshot, whatever format. Maybe normal from the implementation point of view, but clearly not ideal. Firefox heavily depends on external resources, including Cairo, and do not face the same problem. Alexandre > But it's well behaved to t

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-31 Thread Nicolas Cellier
It's normal that external resources don't survive a snapshot, whatever format. But it's well behaved to try to re-allocate resources on resurrection. As a dumb user, I would expect this to happen automatically under the hood, because I would consider that a surface/pixmap or whatever resource is im

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-31 Thread Alexandre Bergel
I face the same situation... Would be great to fix this Alexandre On Oct 31, 2013, at 12:40 PM, kilon alios wrote: > save the image while the morph is displayed, reload the image and in its > place there is the big red box with the yellow X , reporting an error with > Athens. I have reproduc

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-31 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 31 October 2013 16:40, kilon alios wrote: > save the image while the morph is displayed, reload the image and in its > place there is the big red box with the yellow X , reporting an error with > Athens. I have reproduced the error on Windows too with the Athens > examples. I assumed my explan

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-31 Thread kilon alios
save the image while the morph is displayed, reload the image and in its place there is the big red box with the yellow X , reporting an error with Athens. I have reproduced the error on Windows too with the Athens examples. I assumed my explanation was clear , I hope its clear now. This means tha

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:55 AM, kilon alios wrote: > yes I am aware of the examples already, I am learning from them. Please note > I have found a bug with Athens, which looks to me pretty major. If I save a > morph using Athens what do you mean save a morph > and reload the image, what do you

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-31 Thread kilon alios
yes I am aware of the examples already, I am learning from them. Please note I have found a bug with Athens, which looks to me pretty major. If I save a morph using Athens and reload the image, I see the red box of doom. For example trying your example from stackoverflow. Are you aware of this bug

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
ah, yes , there's also examples in Athens-Examples package. On 31 October 2013 01:30, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > On 30 October 2013 23:02, kilon alios wrote: > >> well I just asked if there is any kind of Documentation about Athens . Or >> should I just read the code and ask questions ? >> >> >

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 30 October 2013 23:02, kilon alios wrote: > well I just asked if there is any kind of Documentation about Athens . Or > should I just read the code and ask questions ? > > the main source of documentation right now is class comments and tutorial. I've spent quite of a time commenting the centr

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-30 Thread kilon alios
well I just asked if there is any kind of Documentation about Athens . Or should I just read the code and ask questions ? On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > i hope you satisfied with my answer. > you welcome to ask more, if you not :) > > > On 30 October 2013 22:32, dimitr

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-30 Thread Igor Stasenko
i hope you satisfied with my answer. you welcome to ask more, if you not :) On 30 October 2013 22:32, dimitris chloupis wrote: > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19694197/how-to-create-lines-with-athens > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

[Pharo-dev] How to create lines with Athens

2013-10-30 Thread dimitris chloupis
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19694197/how-to-create-lines-with-athens