Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}

2016-11-02 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 2 Nov 2016, at 07:37, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > Impressive , Cuis has 13 times less classes than Pharo. Maybe I should give > it a closer look afterall. Cuis is quite nice, impressive even. Ideal for learning and then some. But don't be fooled: it lacks lots and lots of things that yo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}

2016-11-01 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Impressive , Cuis has 13 times less classes than Pharo. Maybe I should give it a closer look afterall. Pity that does not translate well in hard disk space. Pharo 6 is 100mbs Cuis is just 70mbs. The VM alone is 50 mbs. On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 1:38 AM p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Setting the Playg

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}

2016-11-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Setting the Playground contents, yeah, I see what you mean. The old Workspace worked better there. I disagree with your view on the modularity. And Cuis is nice indeed (and the UI is fast) - https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk-Learning/Learning-Cuis shows the number of classes. Definitely less than

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}

2016-11-01 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 1 Nov 2016, at 21:21, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > I was trying just yesterday to do something super simple, change the contents > of Playground via code. I used the inspector to navigate , I ended up running > around and accomplish zero. Why not go the Spec way ? window := TextModel n

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}

2016-11-01 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I was trying just yesterday to do something super simple, change the contents of Playground via code. I used the inspector to navigate , I ended up running around and accomplish zero. Bootstraping will never make Pharo easy. Bootstraping is for making it smaller and more modular. Completely diffe

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}

2016-11-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Bootstrapping is needed to escape the big ball of mud that the current image is. It is already much much much better than Pharo 1x. Having a smaller core can iron out a lot of issues and make it super stable. And decouple the various parts. That is no small feat indeed. And frankly it is super hard

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}

2016-11-01 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
We already have a ton of ready made image in CI that pharolauncher has access to and it is very easy to build your own. I build my own images regularly with a makefile and startup script. You can do a lot of neat tricks with those two combinations. Because my image grows quite large lately I was t

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}

2016-11-01 Thread stepharo
Le 29/10/16 à 08:39, p...@highoctane.be a écrit : Having them in image can indeed be useful. I am testing against REST backends, and well, this is a destructive test to say the least. Not easy to replay as much as I want. I hope that with the Bootstrap we'll be able to have a set of "Batte

[Pharo-dev] Image Distributions [was:Re: Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)}

2016-10-28 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Having them in image can indeed be useful. I am testing against REST backends, and well, this is a destructive test to say the least. Not easy to replay as much as I want. I hope that with the Bootstrap we'll be able to have a set of "Batteries Included" distributions. Kind of like we have Moose